Just a boring old day(kle1986)

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     Wow. Did not know the OP has had so many dogs. What has happened to them?

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    sambob

     Wow. Did not know the OP has had so many dogs. What has happened to them?

    Kujo, Cheyenne, Anubis, & Rueben are the current dogs.

    1. Jayde, an aussie, was rehomed due to the OP not being able to handle an active, go, go, go aussie.
    2. Ginger, a jrt, escaped from the vet clinic & was killed.
    3. Lillie, an Irish setter, died from antifreeze poisoning.
    4. Joker, a vizsla, died from antifreeze posioning.
    5. Sinder,a vizsla/transylvanian hound mix, was rehomed because the OP couldn't handle her.
    6. Fynn, an Irish setter, was returned to his breeder.
    7. Keeper, an Irish setter, was returned to his breeder.
    8. Zeeva, an aussie, was rehomed because the OP couldn't handle her.
    9. Splash, an aussie, was stolen.

    The OP seems to continually acquire cute, cuddly, puppies.  Unfortunately, once the pups grow up, they either die dramatically, or they are sent packing to make room for a new puppy.

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     I didnt have Splash when I joined this forum. She was my first Aussie that was stolen from my yard.

    Ginger got loose from the vet's when she was there for her spay and got hit by a car.

    Jayde is at her breeder's working goats with her parents.

    Sinder was sent back to her breeder because she didnt like being around the dogs here. Breeder put her in a home where she's the only dog.

    Fynn went back to his breeder and put in a show home when I decided I do not want to show. It was the agreement and in the contract when I decided to co-own him with his breeder that I would show him. Since I tried showing and didnt like it I had to give him back. I did not want to. But what was I to do?

    Zeeva I got from the pound with intentions on fostering and rehoming. My bf wanted to keep her but she didnt like my daughter. She would snap at her every time she would get 5ft from her. So I rehomed her like I had planned in the first place in a no-kid home.

    I lost Lillie and Joker in December to poisoning. A part of me died with them. I loved them very much. I miss them. I think about them everyday.

    I got Keeper after losing Lillie and Joker. Well he had a heart murmur that was too bad for him to compete in agility like I had planned. So the breeder took him back as stated on the contract.

    If Lillie and Joker were here Rueben and Anubis would not be. I love the 2 boys but if I could go back in time I would do so and save Lillie and Joker.

    Oh and Kujo is spayed!!

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    I thought you and JJ were married, or is there someone else now?
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     I'm afraid I can't be silent any more either...

     I didnt have Splash when I joined this forum. She was my first Aussie that was stolen from my yard.

    Leaving a friendly dog outdoors unattended by a human invites thievery, or worse.

    Ginger got loose from the vet's when she was there for her spay and got hit by a car.

    I will give you the benefit of the doubt, but hope you changed vets immediately - this is inexcusable.

    Jayde is at her breeder's working goats with her parents.

    Probably, better off than with you.

    Sinder was sent back to her breeder because she didnt like being around the dogs here. Breeder put her in a home where she's the only dog.

    If she's in a good home, more power to her, too.

    Fynn went back to his breeder and put in a show home when I decided I do not want to show. It was the agreement and in the contract when I decided to co-own him with his breeder that I would show him. Since I tried showing and didnt like it I had to give him back. I did not want to. But what was I to do?

    I don't discard my dogs when they are suited for something I don't like.  Perhaps you should have shown the dog, despite your dislike for it, or hired a professional handler to finish the dog.  Or (big one) not sign a contract that you might not be able to fulfill, just to satisfy a whim for  the instant gratification of getting the next puppy in a string that's already too long.

    Zeeva I got from the pound with intentions on fostering and rehoming. My bf wanted to keep her but she didnt like my daughter. She would snap at her every time she would get 5ft from her. So I rehomed her like I had planned in the first place in a no-kid home.

    You sent her somewhere else  to unknown people when you had promised her to a responsible, knowledgeable I-dogger with a loving home who desperately wanted her - shame on you!!!!!!  Reprehensible, in my opinion, and unforgivable.

    I lost Lillie and Joker in December to poisoning. A part of me died with them. I loved them very much. I miss them. I think about them everyday.

    Where were they wandering *alone* that this could have happened??? Are your dogs "outdoor dogs"????  How many times have we tried to educate people about the dangers of that?  Apparently, you weren't listening and your dogs paid the price.

    I got Keeper after losing Lillie and Joker. Well he had a heart murmur that was too bad for him to compete in agility like I had planned. So the breeder took him back as stated on the contract.

    Again, you dump a dog that isn't precisely what you wanted.  Wonder how long it will take for your current dogs to disappoint you.

    If Lillie and Joker were here Rueben and Anubis would not be. I love the 2 boys but if I could go back in time I would do so and save Lillie and Joker.

    Well, then, I hope this is the last horrific death or rehoming tale that you will tell here.  But, I suspect it won't be, if you remain here.  Frankly, I don't care if you do, and I rarely, if ever, say that, even to those I have spirited debates with.  I'm not about to be "supportive" to someone who doesn't ever seem to learn from her mistakes, and if I were a breeder (or even a dog dumper from craigslist) I would not place a dog in your care - ever.

    Oh and Kujo is spayed!!

    Whoopee.  As if that should be something for us to cheer at this point.  It's just responsible ownership - something the rest of us have been practicing for a long time without looking for a pat on the back.  

    Your photo dumps simply remind most of us of your departed dogs that we have cried over more than you apparently have.  Sorry, needed to be said.  People here are very worried that you may be using pets to satisfy some unmet need in yourself, rather than just enjoying their company for who they are.  And, they worry that you subject yourself to abuse without regard for bringing animals into an abusive situation.  Not OK.  If you sincerely want help, it's out there for anyone with enough guts to seek it, and I'm sure that idoggers would support you if you took advantage of that.  However, I do not support or condone animal neglect, or abuse, and until I'm certain beyond reasonable doubt that you are not doing that, I take no joy in your latest acquisitions - I pity them for landing there.

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     I am sick and tired of all of you blaming me for Lillie and Joker. I blame myself every day and dont need your help in that department. I loved them. I want them back. I did not let them run around alone. My dogs are inside dogs that go out supervised or kenneled in the run. Lillie and Joker were under the JJ's mom's watch when they got poisoned!!! Im sorry I took a job so I could get Samantha more presents for Christmas than she needed. Im sorry I thought I could work 2 days a week and have someone let the dogs out for 10 minutes to potty. I should have just made them wait 12 hours while I was at work to hold it.

    I learned my lesson!! I dont leave my dogs with anyone any more. I dont do anything any more that requires being gone more than 4 hours. They dont even get left in the dog run while I run inside to do something. I dont even let the pups off leash in the yard.

    I know how you all feel. I got the message with Rueben. I would tell you how Anubis got here but what's the point? A few know because they were nice enough to send me a pm. I will continue posting for the people that like to see pictures and will warn you if they are my pictures. If you cant comment nicely then dont comment at all.

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    If you want respect you need to earn it over time, especially in light of the worry and fear you have created.  This is an Internet forum, and while no personal attack on you is intended, your handling of your dogs is what we have criticized.  You may be a very nice person, but you have chosen to post on a forum that is pretty dog-centric.  If you don't want your dog care situation analyzed, maybe you should be on the mommy forums or something.  We don't stand silent when it comes to dogs' welfare, yours or anyone else's.  If you take care of these dogs, you have nothing to fear, now do you?

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    Kim, I know some of the people posting here have been harsh, but please try to rise above feeling defensive and figure out what they're trying to say, and why. I think we are all worried about you. Even if none of it is your fault, you seem to have a very unstable household right now. Are things okay with JJ? Is he happy with and excited about the dogs? Are you stable financially? If some emergency comes up, can you afford to take all of your animals to the emergency vet? You don't have to answer these things to us, but please think about them for yourself.

    I know for me right now, I just moved to a new place, far away from my boyfriend of 7 years, and I'm living by myself for the first time in a really long time. I can't tell you how many times I've thought of adding a second dog, or a cat, or a bird... and I have good stories for myself, too. I will work from home a lot. Another animal would keep Rascal company. With BF far away, I have much more time to commit to more pets. But when I sit down and think about it - REALLY think about it - I realize I'm misleading myself.

    You have to think about these things as if you were an adoption counselor, reviewing an application from yourself. Because you care about your animals a great deal, you'd have an extensive list of requirements and recommendations before rehoming them, right? I'd recommend making that list, and spending a lot of time on it, and then looking at it seriously for yourself. Do you meet your own requirements? Really and truly?

    From what we've seen, you've posted about a husband who complained about the dogs and didn't help out at all around the house, you not being able to leave said husband because of financial constraints, animals of yours dying (even if it wasn't your fault, it HAS to be emotionally difficult for you, and that kind of hurt can leave us not thinking quite clearly), and rehoming others. It just does not look like a safe, stable place. And it doesn't have to be like that! I've found for me at least, when I work out the "people stuff" first (relationships, my own feelings about myself, family problems, etc.), then I can make my life be stable and secure again. And THEN I can bring new things into that environment.

    I hope you kind of understand what I'm trying to say. I don't want all of these posts to "chase you away," because honestly it sounds like you could use a lot of outside support and help right now. But sometimes the help we want isn't the help we need, know what I mean?

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    Cita

    You have to think about these things as if you were an adoption counselor, reviewing an application from yourself. Because you care about your animals a great deal, you'd have an extensive list of requirements and recommendations before rehoming them, right? I'd recommend making that list, and spending a lot of time on it, and then looking at it seriously for yourself. Do you meet your own requirements? Really and truly?

     

     

    Also, along these lines, Kimberly if you plan to pull or take in more animals to foster and help re-home, I would find a reputable rescue to work with.  People doing rogue rescue/fostering/re-homing can have bad outcomes for the animal AND for the people trying to help.  It's unrealistic for one person to be able to not only take in and foster the animals, but assume their vet care and bills, progress with training, do the appropriate temperament testing, and do thorough adoption screening and home checks.  Reputable rescues are every bit as thorough as reputable breeders, know how to cover themselves and their volunteers as far as liability, and are able to take back dogs that might get returned.  When people try to do it all on their own - even with the best intentions - things go wrong and then you are no longer trusted by other rescues or potential adopters.

    I can sort of understand why some of the dogs were returned and rehomed but it raises the question of why there was not more research that went into acquiring those dogs in the first place to avoid temperament mis-matches and major health issues?  Doing Schutzhund is something I've dreamed about and obsessed over for nearly six years now and my "Schutzhund dog" is not even born yet.  I have spent the better part of the last three years going to clubs in different states, observing and training under different trainers, getting to know breeders, attending and competing in shows, contacting people all over the WORLD, training and competing with my other dogs, and finally searching for a breeder that has *exactly* the lines and temperament I want and will also meet the terms that *I've* developed for myself along the way....all in preparation for this opportunity to raise and train a dog with potential.  I can't imagine getting a breed that is relatively new to me on a whim and committing to something I wasn't prepared to follow through with...repeatedly.

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    I searched posts by the OP.Got a little nosy and was a tad bit bored.

    I'm sorry to hear about what happened to Lily and Joker.From what I can see from all your posts they seemed well loved and concerned about especially your Lily.

    I see people thought rehoming the Australian Shepard Jade was a good idea especially since she is with her breeder doing a job she was bred for.

    Sorry to hear about Ginger also Hope you switched vets immediately!

    I can see why you did adopt the last Australian Shepard out after all.Especially being so child aggressive at such an early age.You couldn't put your little girl at risk.Did you get the pup checked out health wise?Do you think she had a bad experience with children before you rescued her?

    Guess you had no choice when it came to giving back the show dog.I mean if the agreement was to show him and you didn't like showing what were you to do?You couldn't take him to shows if you didn't like it.Wouldn't he feel that and not do his best?How many shows did you do?

    Now for the last Irish Setter.He should have been cleared of health problems before coming to you right?Especially if you were gonna do sports with him. Did you have the option of keeping him for a pet and then the breeder give you a healthy dog to do events with? 

    I know I'm new and don't have no right to question you.I've only owned 2 dogs.I lost my Weimaraner at 11 weeks to distemper. I can see how fast things can happen.I can see how easy it would be to get another dog after losing one especially if you've enjoyed having them in your life.I would have one right now if Luger's brother had needed me but the family decided to keep him.I'm still searching for the dog that needs me.

    I hope the best for these dogs you have now.I still would enjoy pictures of them.They are all beautiful and I would enjoy seeing your boys grow.

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    sambob
    Especially being   so child aggressive at such an early age.You

     

    A snap is not aggressive behavior. Australian Shepards are herding dogs and do not do well with the herky jerky movements of a child. I'm sorry to say this and Kimberly I'm not saying anything against you, but she had no business with that dog in her home at all. She already had two, one was stolen and the other was given back to the breeder due to lack of breed research.

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    sambob

    I can see why you did adopt the last Australian Shepard out after all.Especially being so child aggressive at such an early age.You couldn't put your little girl at risk.Did you get the pup checked out health wise?Do you think she had a bad experience with children before you rescued her?

    Guess you had no choice when it came to giving back the show dog.I mean if the agreement was to show him and you didn't like showing what were you to do?You couldn't take him to shows if you didn't like it.Wouldn't he feel that and not do his best?How many shows did you do?

    Now for the last Irish Setter.He should have been cleared of health problems before coming to you right?Especially if you were gonna do sports with him. Did you have the option of keeping him for a pet and then the breeder give you a healthy dog to do events with? 

     

    Tiffy is right. I should have never brought her home. I had just lost Lillie and Joker. Stopped at the pound to look at cats and there she was after being dumped after Christmas. So I brought her home to foster and find her a forever home. I got the Aussie pup checked out and she was good health wise. She is in a home where there are no kids and wont be around any small kids. Just an older couple who dont have any young kids in the family. Youngest "kid" was a niece at 14.

    I did 8 shows with Fynn. Didnt do anything in the ring. Got some pictures in the mail someone took and the pictures showed it all. He defiantly felt my uneasiness.

    I got the IS pup to do agility with and he was healthy when he got checked at the vet. But when I took him in for a giardia check the vet found he had a murmur. Went to a cardiologist and he had a grade 3 murmur. Told his breeder and she refunded me and took him back. Yes selfishly I didnt want a sick dog. I didnt want to take the risk of losing another dog. And like I said he was supposed to be my agility dog.