Smartest Dog?

The list is rigged. For sure.

ORIGINAL: glenmar
Oh, them's fighting words Janice....gonna have to send a gsd to outsmart your V!! []

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Ok, here's my smartest puppy story. This happened before I found i-dog. ([] oh, what did I do with my life?)

Rupert was one of the easiest dogs to potty train. We just took him out every hour, then he would come in and play for ten minutes, then fall asleep in my lap. After a nice long nap, I'd carry him outside, then praise the heck out of him when he went potty. When we were gone, we would put him in his kennel. Because of my SO & my work schedules, Rupert is only in his kennel for 4 hours. (It a was shorter time when he was little). The very first day he was in there, I come home to find scattered poo all outside his kennel. He must have had to go, and knew he didn't want it in his kennel, so he scraped it all out. [&:] The second day, I came home to a nice, neat pile of poo just outside of his kennel. He must have pushed his lil hinder right up against the wires. [sm=rofl.gif] From that day on, no more poo inside or outside his kennel.

janice, that's hilarious....very creative pooing....
 
As for the smartest dogue...Talus likes to read....

LOL, that picture of Talus is *priceless*!

Emma says that she really enjoyed 1984. I would have liked to have read it.....

I say JRT are pretty darn smart. I also say that you don't necessarily want a super smart dog. It's pretty bad when the dog begins to figure you out, and outsmart you.

Labs are very smart []. And while I don't have a GSD ( yet), I have to agree, that they are VERY smart dogs. That's why they're used for herding, guide dogs, police work, etc. []

I'd agree with Golden Retreivers as well....but I thought Labs were up on the AKC list too [] lol 

ORIGINAL: jennie_c_d

LOL, that picture of Talus is *priceless*!

Emma says that she really enjoyed 1984. I would have liked to have read it.....

I say JRT are pretty darn smart. I also say that you don't necessarily want a super smart dog. It's pretty bad when the dog begins to figure you out, and outsmart you.

I agree about the picture of that cutie patootie Talus!

And yeah, my BF says Sofia is "inconveniently smart." And he's right. []

Hmm, that site has Labs and Goldens at the front and rates Siberians and Mals in the middle... however, I once read on a website about sleddogs:
 
If you tell a golden retriever to turn right while pulling a sled, he will immediately do so. A Mal or Sibe will wait until they've gotten past the tree. []
 
 

Chow are wey the smartest dogs lol []
 
All doggies are smart in there own way it depends on your definition of smart ie working smart - Labs, collies, gsd's etc, Hunting smart - Springers, Beagles, terriers.
 
Depending on what you want the dog to do they all have there own strong points!!!!  

It all depends on how you define intelligence.  Most people rank dogs as smart based on trainability.  Intelligence has many dimensions.  There also is the genetic component associated with instinct associated with the breed origins.  Is a hound smart if it can herd, or a chow smart if it retreives?  Is intelligence based on survivability?
Personally breeds from the herding, working and sporting groups seem intelligent based on their willingness to do things their humans want them to do.  Dogs from the hound group seem intelligent with respect to getting people to for them unless it involes tracking something.  Within each group there is variety among the breeds.  I think the smartest dog I ever owned was a wire hair X cocker/poodle mix.  Her smarts grew each year, that life experience contributed to her natural problem solving.  Hardest dog to train I ever owned.

Really, the more dogs I know - the  more convinced I am that the actual breed is NOT the determining factor in intelligence.  There are incredibly smart dogs of every breed and conversely - each breed has it's share of dopeys!   The other thing, is that we each have our own definition of "smart".  I personally do not necessarily equate obedient with intelligent.  I consider a dog to be  intelligent: when they problem solve - on their own, when they retain information, when they think for themselves.  For example, years ago I adopted a retired Seeing Eye Dog.  She was my definition of intelligent!   She watched the crosswalk lights, then she looked at the traffic.  If I wanted her to cross before it was "safe" (in her estimation) she wouldn't.  She would actually DISobey me and put on the brakes.  She also seemed to figure everything out almost immediately.  At 11 years old, she essentially had to learn how to be a pet - having been a strict working dog her entire life.  This was no easy feat for a senior. 
 
Also, I think dogs that are highly motivated by *whatever* have an advantage, as they are much more likely to display their intelligence.   My boy, Slick is highly motivated by FOOD.  He will do AMAZING things when there is food involved - and he will remember EXACTLY what it took to get that treat.   Smart?  maybe.  Without the motivation, I wouldn't even see this side of him.  I guess what I'm saying is that,  to me - it's not as simple as "smart" and "not-smart".  And I don't put any credence into those lists of smartest breeds, etc. 
 
just my humble two cents! 

I second jennie - JRT are pretty darn smart.  [] I will say that our previous dog, Reese, a Dalmatian was very smart as well.  Lille...hmm, well she is no dummy, but she doesn't catch on quite as quickly as Dasher and Reese.  I think a lot has to do with the individual dog as well.

ORIGINAL: boneyjean

I don't agree with that list at all!  They didn't have min pin or boston terrier anywhere on it!  We all know how smart they are!  []

 
I found the min pin, #37! I was worried it wasn't on there either! Also, the boston terrier is #54.

Thanks Kalishea!  My dogs might be smarter than me!!!  I still think they should be higher on the list!!!  []

I'm surprised to see the Doberman in the top five, honestly. They're highly intelligent dogs, but I wouldn't rate them that high with my experience with the breed. However, we're probably all pretty biased around here but I think the Toller and the Belgian Shepherds should rank really high. They're my two favourite breeds and their intelligence is part of the reason why. Though both are pretty stubborn and aren't as willing to please like a Poodle or a Border Collie, so maybe that's why they're not as high ranked. I'm just speaking from my experience with both breeds though.

I think a dog is like a child. It is the parent (owner) responsibility to teach them. I think your Pet no matter what kind of dog it is. If it has the proper training it can be smart... You are the one that it looks up to too teach him or her...