Easy fix for wolf problems (janobonano)

 Kirby has informed me that wolves are generally more afraid of people than other dogs so it would be far more advantageous to tie a hooman outside instead.

LOL Kirby! I'll send that suggestion to the DNR. Maybe one of their employees will volunteer?

That is crazy!

My uncle now lives in the home my grandparent had in Fairchild and I know that there is a wolf pack near there in the Clark County Forest area. While I never saw them, I did hear them.

Here is an interactive map that shows where the packs are by territory or radio.

http://wiatri.net/Maps/AtriDemo/

http://dnr.wi.gov/org/land/er/mammals/wolf/wolf_map.htm

You keep safe Jan!

janobonano

LOL Kirby! I'll send that suggestion to the DNR. Maybe one of their employees will volunteer?

 

*head/desk*

....never ask a dog to do what a man wont do...... 

I lived in Rhinelander  when it was a small northwoods town.  Loved it.  We kept the canoe on the roof of the car, because we used it so often.  Anyway, when we were there, you would hear a timber wolf howl occasionally but not often .  Tieing a dog in front  of a barn will keep the wolves off the cattle only if its a big fat dog but only because the wolves are eating the dog.  I can see the farmers point in this.  Watching your livestock and pets get eaten is not easy, even if the DNR pays for wolf kills and of course livestock is easier to hunt than deer.There are of course no easy solutions.  What do you do with wild wolves? The north woods are not really wild any more.

 there has to be some sort of solution - shooting being the drastic measure.... but using the scent of big cats? recorded wolf howls? or some method similar to the way people run off nuisance bears.... leashed dogs leaping and barking and straining to go after the wolf.

the other possible method is hunting them. no not running them down and killing but certainly pursuing them and firing blanks at them to let them know their presence will not be tolerated on a farm.... but i do think the recorded wolf howls would be easier and less dangerous to all involved.

as for the pets getting eaten.... that has always been a potential problem if there were ever coyotes, foxes, or bob cat in the area. if you leave the pet outside and in an unsafe area and alone then.... you pay your dime and take your chances.

just paying for the loss of livestock isnt enough..... but i'm not sure how they do that.i assume the give you the cost of the animal plus what it was worth..... a dairy cow can give over three gallons of milk a day and they are bloody expensive to purchase... do i even WANT to know who foots that bill?? 

it would seem the DNR would seek more practical ways of preventing losses, otherwise they are useless.

I do think the DNR has to reimburse for loss, not sure how they come up with the amount. I know I've heard about it being done for bear-hunting dogs that have been killed. Playing recorded howls is a good idea. As far as opening up a wolf-hunting season, the DNR would actually make money because hunters would have to pay for tags.

DumDog

as for the pets getting eaten.... that has always been a potential problem if there were ever coyotes, foxes, or bob cat in the area. if you leave the pet outside and in an unsafe area and alone then.... you pay your dime and take your chances.

There have been numerous cases reported where people were walking their dog/s in the woods, unleashed, when the dogs were attacked. Right in front of the human. Scary!

 thats horrible!!

in FL we have to worry about yotes and alligators grabbing pets (or people in rare situations) they finally issues limited licenses for gators - havent kept track of the whole thing so as far as i know its still limited... because i dont really want to hunt gators! - but coyotes have a year round open season with no limit. doesnt even put a dent in their population..... as a result of that..... i dont let my dogs go off leash in the woods. this past deer season in Alabama  my uncle was walking back to his truck when he discovered two coyotes were flanking him on both sides of the trail...

 Would it be cheaper in the long run to put up electric fences that are somehow subsidized by the DNR?  Of course, they would have to be more than one strand like my old neighbors who's calves kept coming into our pasture...  grrrr... the dogs did have fun chasing them back though.

 i would've thought the dairy would already have an electric fence. the dairy we go to does - though to be honest....... the fence i saw was something you could just step over for ease of access.. keeps the cows in.. probably would not keep a smart wolf out.

we have an electric fence for our property but that didnt stop the dog across the street from coming down the driveway.

i doubt this guy has to worry about wolves coming into his barn though. but its scary they even got that close during the day.

are the farmers allowed to protect themselves from these animals? or will they get into trouble for shooting a wolf that has trespassed? if not then i would just keep a rifle in the dairy barn and fire a few shots AT them to scare them.. and if that didnt work .... well..... 

Wondering if anyone has tried livestock guardian dogs for the wolf problem. I know Great Pyrs were originally used to keep sheep safe from wolves specifically, so it seems possible LSG could be used in this situation too. 

I wouldn't put anything less than a Kangal or Caucasian Ovcharka out for wolves. IMO a Pyr, today's Pyr's, would not stand a chance.

The wolves where Pyrs were developed were more like jackals or coyotes in size...no where near the size of a full grown Timber wolf. The breeds above also have a dog fighting history right up to now (vs their own breed whcih are about the size of Timbers) so they could probably handle the wolves a lot better...as much as that is distasteful to say.

DumDog

 thats horrible!!

in FL we have to worry about yotes and alligators grabbing pets (or people in rare situations)