White Yorkie??

    • Puppy
    here is my sofie
    • Gold Top Dog
    Looks like a dilute...interesting.
    • Puppy
    heres another of her.
    • Puppy
    [:D] and no i am not the one that is selling pups for 10k. i just happened to pull up this page and thought you might like to see sofie and yes she is akc dna on her and parents.    thanks teresa.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Just to avoid confusion...
    AKC DNA profiles confirm ONLY that the 2 dogs listed on the pedigree are the parents of the dog tested..NOTHING about the parents breed is proven or disproven by this test.
     
    There is an independantly offered test available for breed, but as has been discussed there's a lot of doubt as to it's accuracy. To date there is no 100% proven way to ID a dogs "purity" by DNA thru any registration body.
    • Puppy
    Gina I trust akc and she is a true yorkie and there is other ones out there. i breed yorkies i have 11 she is my only white and everyone that sees her falls in love with her. when they are born they are dark then they change white. she just had pups last night this is her first litter and they were born black and tan dont know what color the babys will be when they grow up but she is real pretty.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Last weekend at the show I went to, I was with my friend who is a handler from Mexico.  She has had Yorkies and knows a ton about them.  As we were watching the Yorkies show, she told me that as they get older, they get more and more white.  Almost completely white later in life.  Which, makes sense.  They are born black/tan and fade to that silvery color as they get older.  It makes sense to fade to completely white if that fading keeps progressing.  Now, I don't know if this would be true in the BYB Yorkies because some of them don't even look like a Yorkie at all...they become 15lb giants, so I don't know what their colors do when they have bad genes.  I saw a Silky rescue yesterday that I really think was a Yorkie.  She was 5-6 years old and VERY light in color.
    • Gold Top Dog
    My warning was for general purposes...not your dog in particular. AKC DNA can only tell you about parentage...not breed....period. Didn't want newbies thinking that AKC is the be all end all of breeder integrity because we all know that is simply not the case. For any registry...not just AKC.
    • Gold Top Dog
    I have seen Yorkies that fade to the silvery color, and some older ones that stay very dark. I would wonder about a white Yorkie if it were some kind of albino-ism or just very diluted (is that the term?)
     
    According to the Yorkie Club of America, NO white dogs or dogs with white markings were used to develop the breed so it wouldn't be a traditional recessive gene. From [linkhttp://www.ytca.org/faq.html#B]http://www.ytca.org/faq.html#B[/link]

    A brief history of the development of the Yorkshire Terrier will show that the dog was developed in the 1800#%92s. In England, the Waterside Terrier was often crossed with the old English terrier, a silky coated black and tan or blue and tan terrier weighing around five pounds. When crafters from Scotland came into England, they brought several “Scotch“terriers, among them the Paisley and the Clydesdale. The Paisley was a small silky coated dog in various shades of blue. The Clydesdale was a blue and tan dog with the exact color pattern as the Yorkie of today. All of these original breeds were grizzle, tan, blue, blue and tan, or black and tan. No white dog or dogs with white markings were involved in the process of developing the breed. The first Yorkshire Terriers were entered at shows as Broken Haired Scotch and Yorkshire Terriers. In the early days, dog classes were often divided by size, under five pounds and over five pounds; however, there was never a class for colors other than the blue and tan we see today. The color pattern and coat texture has bred true and has been dominate enough that the Silky Terrier evolved by crossing the Yorkshire Terrier and the Australian Terrier with basically the same coat of the of the Yorkie. 
     

     
    The site also has a page with photos of Yorkies of a variety of ages from 1 day to 16 years. The pair at ages 4 and 5 are pretty pale, but not white, and the 16 year old is very dark: [linkhttp://www.ytca.org/pictures.html]http://www.ytca.org/pictures.html[/link]
     
    Bottom line to me is that if you have a pet you are happy with, it shouldn't matter if it meets the breed standard. If you are breeding, that is another thing entirely.
     
    If I were looking for a puppy, I would ask anyone deliberately breeding dogs that don't meet the standard why they are doing it. To be fair, I would ask any breeder "why these two dogs?"---but I would be especially interested in hearing why a dog that doesn't meet the standard was bred.
    • Puppy
    I called akc and they state that yorkies are diffrent colors you have the silvers, tans, reddish, browns, blondes and that she has heard about white and that colors are being put on the list all the time. sofie has never been sick she is very healthy. these yorkies are born black and tan just like any other yorkie then they start crowning light and go from there. I have sold 48 yorkies and never had a problem people have come back to get more dogs from me. like i said this was sofies first litter but everytime people saw her they wanted me to call them when she had pups. she is 4 pounds. I have never sold a defective dog. In my contract it states anything health wise goes wronge to contact me and people are always sending me pictures of my babys alot of times people come vist with there dogs.
    • Gold Top Dog
    I called akc and they state that yorkies are diffrent colors you have the silvers, tans, reddish, browns, blondes and that she has heard about white and that colors are being put on the list all the time. sofie has never been sick she is very healthy. these yorkies are born black and tan just like any other yorkie then they start crowning light and go from there. I have sold 48 yorkies and never had a problem people have come back to get more dogs from me. like i said this was sofies first litter but everytime people saw her they wanted me to call them when she had pups. she is 4 pounds. I have never sold a defective dog. In my contract it states anything health wise goes wronge to contact me and people are always sending me pictures of my babys alot of times people come vist with there dogs.


    I don't think anyone meant to put you down, just that the AKC is really not that great of a resource as far as ethical breeding.  They don't have that great of a reputation these days, so informed buyers will trust info from the breed's kennel club and health certs from OFA, CERF, PennHIP, etc over anything the AKC says.  Even puppy mill puppies can be AKC registered (again, not saying yours are, just making points about the AKC, not you).
    • Gold Top Dog
    It's probably the same thing that happened with white Miniature Schnauzers, somewhere down the line an irresponsible breeder added a different breed of white color and sold them as "rare" colored dogs. A very responsible Miniature Schnauzer breeder once told me that the white MS came from a puppymill kennel and we all know how accurate their record keeping can be [8|]. Either way, I would be very leery about a white Yorkie especially if no white dogs/breeds were used in the creation of the breed. If there were white dogs/breeds used in the creation of the breed then I can understand a throwback but if not, I would not be surprised if there was some cross breeding going on way back in the pedigree.
     
    As far as the  AKC goes, they are a registry and a registry only. You can register a dog of a different color, all you have to do is contact the AKC for the right color code. For example, in Boston Terriers the "acceptable" colors are brindle and white, black and white and seal and white however there are fawn/brown/red and blue/grey Boston Terriers(usually bred and marketed as "rare" by irresponsible breeders). If you contact the AKC, you can register them correctly by getting the right color code. I should also say that although these colors are disqualifying in the show ring and really aren't desired by responsible breeders, the reason these colors do come up is because many of the breeds used to create the Boston Terrier did come in fawn/brown/red or blue/grey.
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: yorkietere

    I called akc and they state that yorkies are diffrent colors you have the silvers, tans, reddish, browns, blondes and that she has heard about white and that colors are being put on the list all the time. sofie has never been sick she is very healthy. these yorkies are born black and tan just like any other yorkie then they start crowning light and go from there. I have sold 48 yorkies and never had a problem people have come back to get more dogs from me. like i said this was sofies first litter but everytime people saw her they wanted me to call them when she had pups. she is 4 pounds. I have never sold a defective dog. In my contract it states anything health wise goes wronge to contact me and people are always sending me pictures of my babys alot of times people come vist with there dogs.

     
    I am not getting on your case, it is great you stand behind your dogs.
     
    As a point of information for anyone lurking they should know that the akc is a registry and does not determine the breed standard which is decided by the breed club. The akc registers the dogs and sanctions events, but the breed club determines whether or not they are changing the standard.
     
    Dogs can be perfectly healthy, be purebred and have something about them which is a disqualification under the breed standard, and still be registered. For example, an "incorrect color" or tail or coat or whatever...Just wanted to make this clear.[8|]
    • Gold Top Dog
    my Sadie was a white German Shepherd...she had black/tan parents. I suppose anything is possible
    • Puppy
    the only kind of yorkie that has white is a biewer.. they were first bred in 1984 in germany and the akc does not recognize them yet.. the biewer is usually tri-colored though... and just like golden yorkies if it has yorkie in it at all it was probably bred with a maltese unless you have a pedigree that says other wise then its a genetic thing