Doggy depression

 Ugh, I don't have any suggestions as I've never owned more than one dog at once. All I can say is I'm SO sorry for your loss. Poor pup. :(

Does she have any friends of yours or other dogs that she really likes and doesnt get to see all the time? Maybe have them come over to see her. It will take her mind off Emma for a while. And hide treats and toys for her to find around the house to give her something to do. Maybe get her a new toy? Or try a new yummy treat? Also, give her more attention from you. Petting, training, etc. than she would normally get.

Sometimes, all it takes is time though. When most dogs mourn they return to "normal" after about 2 weeks.

And, I know I've said this before, but I'm SO SORRY for your loss. She was a special, beautiful girl.

I feel so bad for you Bean.  Poor baby, I know it's hard for you and your mom but we're saying prayers for you both.  I hope you start to open up to Jewel some.  Hopefully with time the two can bond better.

Mechanical Angel

Sometimes, all it takes is time though. When most dogs mourn they return to "normal" after about 2 weeks.

Ditto on time.

Again, I'm so sorry for your loss.  Sending some feel better vibes to the whole family.

 I'm not training either of them, at all, on our trainer's advice. Neither of them can think straight, and both have "forgotten" everything but heel and sit. No reason to stress them out. I'm asking them only to walk politely on the leash, and give a sit or down for food and toys. Emma was a VERY strong presence.

It does not help that she was my heart dog. Yesterday, I got out of bed, and Bean was still under the covers (not unusual). I flipped them back, and told her it's time to wake up. When I looked at her, she was laying on her side, crying. Saddest thing you have EVER seen. Chinese Cresteds cry tears, when they are hurt or sad.

Poor Ena is probably just mourning Emma in her own way. Dogs do mourn. It'll just take time for you, Ena, and Jewel to get the "normalness" back in your lives. Everything is probably so fresh for you and Ena, ((((hugs)))).

 Poor things :(

When Rascal's original owner died, he was severely depressed for a while. What helped him most was getting him out and about and doing new and exciting things, basically helping him take his mind off of things. We went to the beach, we went hiking, we went to outdoor shopping malls, etc.

The stress is probably taking its toll physically, too, so it probably wouldn't hurt for all of you guys to have a dose of probiotics or so... extra sleep and vitamins... and lots, I mean LOTS, of cuddles.

Maybe some time at a good doggie daycare, making new friends?

 Poor Bean and you. I can only imagine.  Bugsy has been 'off' because of not being able to see and play with his friends!  

As others have said time will heal, I do wonder if training or socializing might help though.  I'm clueless but it seems as if she could be diverted it would help.  I wonder how she would be around young pups?

I think of you often Jennie, my heart goes out to you deeply 

Talk to her.  *Tell her* what happened. 

The world thot I was stark raving MAD last week for bringing Kee Shu home from the e-vet so Luna and Tink could SEE her and "say goodbye".  THEN what the heck to "do" with her during the night???  Then I took her to Dr. Bailey in the morning to be cremated. 

But I knew Tink would go nuts -- she's subdued ... and the cold isn't helping ... but she's "ok".  Because she knows what happened to Kee. 

You've got to talk Bean thru this.  While you talk to her **think** about how sad Emma was and how she just wasn't "Emma" any more.  Then visualize her at the Bridge while you talk about it.  Stress that she was "sick" -- (and visualize her seizures as you say that). 

But let Bean know that you didn't just go off and "leave" Emma.  That she's someplace BETTER where she's not sick **ANY** more. 

Your trainer is WRONG -- **VERY** wrong.  Start something "new" with her -- no matter how crazy.  Take her new places -- do **different** things with her and begin to build some new memories.

This is going to take serious effort on **your** part.  Meg and I were just talking about you (and I've been lifting you up all weekend) because this was such a difficult decision.  But you have to help Bean see that the "dark" side of Emma was sickness ... and that Emma just wasn't Emma any more and she just wasn't happy. 

As you talk with words, Ena is going to pick up your emotions as well -- dogs think in frames -- pictures.  But she's going to "get it" more than you think she will.  But then after you talk ... then you gotta make this huge effort to "do" all the things you really don't want to do.  To work with the dogs, to go new places, to substitute NEW times and NEW memories and begin to move on. 

You may need to get her a little bit of help -- massage will help her, so would T Touch.  Even try some passion flower or valerian -- but get her out of herself.  In fact, St. John's Wort might be the sort of calmative that will help her -- but you'll have to take some steps to snap her out of it. 

 Back when we lost Muffin the Intrepid I was sure I was gonna lose Foxy -- Muffin's illness was SO hard and SO fast and SO horrible & violent and he was literally like Foxy's CHILD. 

Fox went into a major depression as I knew he would.  I threw his 17 1/2 year old butt in to BASIC obedience just to get his CGC.  It was a winter similar to this one -- cold as heck.  And here I was running him around in freezing weather asking a 17 1/2 year old dog to refresh all his basic commands.

HE KNEW THEM.

 Was I nuts?  No -- instead, it gave him a reason to shine.  HE knew them so the trainer asked him to "demonstrate" things -- the "puppies" looked up to him.  THAT made him focus.

It wasn't a particularly good class but it was ***different***.  Different people, different dogs, SOMETHING TO DO THAT WAS **NEW**. 

Then -- I sat down with him and held Muffin's therapy dog tags in my hand and I showed them to Foxy and I said "Remember?  THESE were what got Muffin to the hospitals.  Do YOU want to do that??  Then we gotta get the CGC so that test is important!"

Did he know all the words?  Nope -- but he knew the intent and frankly it was crystal clear to him.  HE started going to hospitals -- and the first time he went to Shands at Gainesville there was NEVER EVER a more proud dog.

THAT is how I got him thru it -- **something NEW**.  I'm not saying do pet therapy.  I'm using this as an example.  But interest her in something new. 

Start visiting a nursng home.  or SOMETHING.  just do **something** new.  It will help both of you.

When my aussie was killed, Chyna was depressed for about 3 weeks.  She had a broken leg that happened in the same accident that killed my aussie, so getting her out, active, & hopefully past it quickly wasn't really an option.  At the time, I didn't clicker train so I had no clue what to do with her to try to bring her out of it.  In the end, I spent all the time that I could with her.

If I were dealing with it now, I'd try to get her out & about as much as possible, as well as doing very basic obedience work.

((((Big Hugs to you, Bean, & Jewel))))

 She didn't mean no training for a long  time, just for the next few days. There is a new basic obedience class starting Tuesday, and I plan to bring Bean to that. Today, she went to two jobs, with me, and she visited with human friends. I did not bring Emma home to show her, and it was probably a big mistake, BUT I couldn't handle that.

 I will try to think of someplace new, for them. Bean has been almost everywhere, LOL. There is a therapy dogs clinic on the 17 that I was considering going to. I am not sure whether Jewel's obedience is ready for it (it's TDI) or Bean's maturity level is ready, but I guess we'll see. I can't think of anything else "new" to do. It's SO cold, that we can't do anything outside. I've been looking for a different set of obedience classes for months (higher level, OR just to do something with a different group, in a different place) and haven't found anything indoors within an hour and a half...

Oh, Jennie, all the above sound like good ideas.  All I know is that you're all in my thoughts.  The one thing that is really sticking out for me is a good snuggle with the girls.  I think it would be good for all of you.

jennie_c_d

 I will try to think of someplace new, for them. Bean has been almost everywhere, LOL. There is a therapy dogs clinic on the 17 that I was considering going to. I am not sure whether Jewel's obedience is ready for it (it's TDI) or Bean's maturity level is ready, but I guess we'll see. I can't think of anything else "new" to do. It's SO cold, that we can't do anything outside. I've been looking for a different set of obedience classes for months (higher level, OR just to do something with a different group, in a different place) and haven't found anything indoors within an hour and a half...

Honestly -- it's just getting "out" and it's exposing her to new challenges -- even if she doesn't do great, she will do better with something TO motivate her.  It may take her a few weeks to find her groove but you'll *find* it if you're ***looking*** for it easier than if you aren't. 

And trust me -- I understand why you didn't bring Emma home.  First off, you're by yourself in this ... and it's TOUGH to handle that under the best of circumstances.  That's why I took Billy *with* me when I took Foxy up -- Billy wasn't IN the room, but he was waiting with the girl techs in the other room to say goodbye to Fox *after*.  On the day I didn't think I could physically handle taking Luna too -- and I knew she'd be ok with it if Billy was. 

NOT easy -- not at all.  What we did with Kee isn't something I would have attempted *alone*.  There's only so much a human CAN do, Jennie -- and you've been a LONG way with this.  But -- at the same time -- seeing Ena's pain ... it will likely change your mind another time about what youdecide to do -- that's not me being "superior" at all -- that's just plain "been there, done that, oh brother!!" talking.  *sigh*  (My husband thot I was SO NUTS to do this -- but now I think he sees the wisdom of all the gymnastics we went thru that night)