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 Congratulations.

 I have to say IME no reputable breeder would sell an intact bitch, with breeding rights outright.  Co-ownership, contractual agreements to safeguard the bitch would be in place.  I would never even allow my stud to be used on a bitch where the breeder would even consider selling an intact bitch (or dog) puppy outright.

 If you want to breed your dog you need to make sure you know everything you can about the health issues known in this line.... just because SHE doesn't display any problems doesn't mean she won't produce them.

 Breeding can be a great joy and it can also be heart wrenching and dangerous.... I have seen and felt more heartache in the last month than I care to admit.  I own just the stud dog, I didn't even have to experience things first hand. Yet it has made me question whether I want to breed litters myself.  I also spend COUNTLESS hours (AS THE STUD DOGS OWNER this is amplified when you are the breeder of the litter) mentoring and helping puppy people.  All hours of the day and night... emergency calls, dog sitting and cookies. I love that part of it, but it is a true commitment of time and resources.

  I do not agree with someone choosing to breed unproven dogs, there are too many dogs that are shining examples of their breed to do that.  For all we know Bon Bon is that dog.... but, without proving her how would we know?

Bon BOn is cute!

I started out with a pet bichon female (Lexi actually) showed he in conformation. She is pointed and has her OFA, cerf tests.  She was bred twice to champions. First litter produced itty bitty bichons, second litter was a large array of sizes, from oversize to just right to tiny again.  One of her Daughters (Darby) is pointed.

I also got a nice show quality toy poodle girl and bred her once.  I ADORE puppies! but I found placing them extremely difficult, and answering the questions of puppy buyers worried me enough that I thought they couldn't possibly care for the dogs properly (They could, I am just way overprotective).  Not to mention intact girls in season. Ick.

I don't for one second regret breeding my girls, because I learned that breeding/showing is not for me.

Just  little anecdote, not trying to sway you one way or another. Congrats on Bon Bon :)

Luvntzus

I fell in love with Bon Bon as soon as I saw her picture and read about her personality.  She's sweet, calm, quiet and eager to please. I think she's going to fit right into our family.

I have to ask...have you actually met this puppy or did you just order her off the Internet? As I recall, you ended up rehoming both Cinnabun & Fudge after ordering them from less than reputable breeders.

I wod hate for you to have to rehome yet another puppy because it ends up with an unsound temperament or it "just doesn't fit" into your home

I've always found that, while the internet is a great tool to research breeders & such, it is not a replacement for actually meeting you breeder & their dogs.

I find that the Internet is best used to buy electronics, Christmas gifts, and the ocassional chocolate or coffee that you just can't find locally. Not for buying puppies!

Just out of curiosity I would like to know- since a lot of you know a lot it seems like about breeding, how did you all get started? There are a lot of people I know that are honest dog breeders- that just take their dogs to check-ups at the vet. These breeders produce good quality dogs with no health issues. So I am just wondering what you breeders on here do?

Thanks. 

Amberld

Just out of curiosity I would like to know- since a lot of you know a lot it seems like about breeding, how did you all get started? There are a lot of people I know that are honest dog breeders- that just take their dogs to check-ups at the vet. These breeders produce good quality dogs with no health issues. So I am just wondering what you breeders on here do?

 

Thanks. 

I for one cannot answer this question. I have never ever bred a dog, and have no plans to. With that said what I look for in a dog is one that has been bred with keeping the breed of choice healthy, trying to breed in or out both the good and the bad and staying as true to the breed as possible. This is not to say every dog that has a title is worthy, nothing is a sure thing.

The OP can do as she please, and probably will. But getting angry with people that asks hard questions and singling out was wrong on her part. She has had 2 other dogs in the past that she has re homed (I am assuming on Fudge since I don't know and she now has Peanut). Stating that she has no plans to show, trial or do anything with the dog other than health testing is troublesome. Why breed then?

Why are you getting another dog if you had to rehome other ones?  That doesn't sound like responsible dog ownership to me.  I'm not surprised people are questioning you.

 Just checkups at the vet, then they sell the puppies, and what? How do you know that the babies are healthy, or that the adults will be healthy in 5 years?

I haven't bred a dog, yet. My first show dog had a reproductive system issue, and was from untested stock, so she was spayed at 1 year of age. WHEN I decide that I am ready for a dog that will be possible breeding stock, I will purchase one from heavily research, long time health tested, proven lines. I want proven health, temperament, conformation, and proven producers. Dogs from breeders who do this, do NOT come with full ownership and breeding rights. They come on a co ownership, and are not allowed to be bred until THEY are proven. It is costly, and it is work. I firmly believe that only the best examples of the breed should be reproduced. There are many, many fantastic pets available. That isn't what I feel a breeder should shoot for, and most folks here feel similarly, that a good breeder is trying to preserve the breed for what it is supposed to be, and improve on existing health issues by only breeding (proven!) healthy dogs.

Amberld

Just out of curiosity I would like to know- since a lot of you know a lot it seems like about breeding, how did you all get started? There are a lot of people I know that are honest dog breeders- that just take their dogs to check-ups at the vet. These breeders produce good quality dogs with no health issues. So I am just wondering what you breeders on here do?

 

Thanks. 

This is really a question for another thread.  I will start one.

jennie_c_d

 Just checkups at the vet, then they sell the puppies, and what? How do you know that the babies are healthy, or that the adults will be healthy in 5 years?

 

I haven't bred a dog, yet. My first show dog had a reproductive system issue, and was from untested stock, so she was spayed at 1 year of age. WHEN I decide that I am ready for a dog that will be possible breeding stock, I will purchase one from heavily research, long time health tested, proven lines. I want proven health, temperament, conformation, and proven producers. Dogs from breeders who do this, do NOT come with full ownership and breeding rights. They come on a co ownership, and are not allowed to be bred until THEY are proven. It is costly, and it is work. I firmly believe that only the best examples of the breed should be reproduced. There are many, many fantastic pets available. That isn't what I feel a breeder should shoot for, and most folks here feel similarly, that a good breeder is trying to preserve the breed for what it is supposed to be, and improve on existing health issues by only breeding (proven!) healthy dogs.