Showing?

And show dogs.... are a joy to groom. As a pet groomer, I've had the privaledge of grooming a few retired show dogs. They're so fantastic on the table, and they really seem to enjoy it. They're not like a pet dog, where they're groomed every month, at most. They're used to being tabled and groomed daily. I groomed a little Shih Tzu, today, who was just the sweetest, easiest going little dog I could ask for. Of course, the resulting groom would have scared her breeder to heart failure and back again, but her parents LOVED her shaved feet and face, and fuzzy puppy body. Yup, I groomed her like a pet Poodle[]

Are there shows, for the fun of it, for altered MUTTS?

I wish I had money for the agility classes you guys talk about.  My dog is CRAZY.  He jumps higher than I've ever seen and can make a running jump and land on the top of my speaker (which is barely big enough for his 4 paws to fit on squished together) without knocking it over.  But he's neutered, and he is heinz 57 all the way.  It would just be fun to see how he fared, with training, against other dogs regardless of pure or not, altered or not.  hehe

Are there shows, for the fun of it, for altered MUTTS?

Wouldn't that be fun?  Kenya is not a mutt, but she's now altered JUST before getting her grand champion title so she's done unless we cheat.  I've never shown and I wish there was a way to do exhibitions just for practice to see if it's something I might like to try later on.  I also think showing is a great way for a dog to stay socialized in public situations and learn to accept strangers approaching and handling.

A dog can often be shown at a national (or regional) specialty usually in the vetrans class (so you have to meet the age requirements)

There are some "fun" dog shows but no real organization to my knowledge unless you look at some of the performance organizations that welcome altered mix breeds.   Oops  yes there is an organization, 4 H.  You can show an altered dog or a mixed breed dog in the 4 H dog programs.

ORIGINAL: talenak

Are there shows, for the fun of it, for altered MUTTS?

I wish I had money for the agility classes you guys talk about.  My dog is CRAZY.  He jumps higher than I've ever seen and can make a running jump and land on the top of my speaker (which is barely big enough for his 4 paws to fit on squished together) without knocking it over.  But he's neutered, and he is heinz 57 all the way.  It would just be fun to see how he fared, with training, against other dogs regardless of pure or not, altered or not.  hehe

 
Agility isn't just an akc or purebred event---there's tons of events and organisations where dogs compete regardless of pedigree. I think the akc actually caught on to agility pretty late.[]
 
Huge group: [linkhttp://www.usdaa.com/aboutUs.cfm]http://www.usdaa.com/aboutUs.cfm[/link]
 
Go here and wander around and see which clubs are near you and how to build your own equipment.
[linkhttp://www.dogpatch.org/Agility/]http://www.dogpatch.org/Agility/[/link]
 
You can compete with a mix in UKC trials--just reg. as a mix with the UKC and you'll get an LP number to use.
 
Check it out and have fun!
 
 
 

I wonder why it is you flat out cannot show an altered dog?  I know the primary purpose of conformation is the evaluation of breeding stock, but what about continuing to develop the credibility of one's breeding stock in general?  For example, if I could show Kenya, I would b/c her breeder put a LOT of work into her and has done a lot for me so we can give back by getting more titles and points that give credibility to her kennel name and lines.  Kenya cannot breed anymore herself, but wouldn't more conformation results give more credibility to her offspring who ARE still intact and may be bred in the future?

I wonder why it is you flat out cannot show an altered dog?

 
Altering a female dog in certain breeds will affect their coat.  In shelties a neutered female tends to have a fuller coat as they aren't blowing it after every heat.  Wouldn't be fair would it.
 
 

Altering a female dog in certain breeds will affect their coat. In shelties a neutered female tends to have a fuller coat as they aren't blowing it after every heat. Wouldn't be fair would it.

Sure it would.  There could be a seperate category for altered animals, or a notation to "handicap" an altered dog for the coat score.  Handicaps are very common in competitions.

Altering a female dog in certain breeds will affect their coat. In shelties a neutered female tends to have a fuller coat as they aren't blowing it after every heat. Wouldn't be fair would it.

I dunno, I suppose that depends on the breed and its standard.

"handicap" an altered dog for the coat score.

 
What coat score?  I have never heard of any scoresheets.
 
 

Oops yes there is an organization, 4 H. You can show an altered dog or a mixed breed dog in the 4 H dog programs.

 
But 4H is more about the kid not the dog.  Aren't the 4H dog programs more about educating the kid than about the dog in question?  Sort of like the junior handling program.
 
 

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Altering a female dog in certain breeds will affect their coat. In shelties a neutered female tends to have a fuller coat as they aren't blowing it after every heat. Wouldn't be fair would it.

I dunno, I suppose that depends on the breed and its standard.

 
One other thing I forgot about earlier.  If it is a male and altered how would the judge know if the dog at one time had all the danglies dangling correctly.
 
 

had all the danglies dangling correctly.

Haha!!  point taken.

Anyone know how ASCA handles their altered championships?

4-H isn't about the dog at all. It's Showmanship & Husbandry (care, grooming, preparing for competition.) 4H judges are specifically told (in my experience) NOT to evaluate the conformation of the dog.

Altering a female dog in certain breeds will affect their coat. In shelties a neutered female tends to have a fuller coat as they aren't blowing it after every heat. Wouldn't be fair would it.

You said this, I figured the coat got points or something.

What coat score?  I have never heard of any scoresheets.

How would I know?  I've never shown an animal.  The thing is, where you are all about why it can't be done, I was trying to suggest methods.  Imagine if you had just said "That's not how they score".  You know, the way someone does when they are just being polite and engaging in conversation and thinking of other ways to manage something.  Instead of spending all their time and effort protecting the status quo.  You might have suggested another method.  Or just agreed that a seperate category would work.

*edited out some snarky*  I'm moody today in general.

One other thing I forgot about earlier.  If it is a male and altered how would the judge know if the dog at one time had all the danglies dangling correctly.

If it was a seperate category then that just wouldn't be one of the things taken in to consideration.  I'm sure anyone judging an altered animals category would be aware they wouldn't have testicles.

Not to mention my original question included events that mutts could compete in.  As in athletic events, obediance events, etc.  Obviously conformation wouldn't come in to it the way it does with pedigree animals.