UPDATE - I'm as Bad as the Rest of You...

    • Gold Top Dog

    I think this rescue would be disqualified by the rescue networks because of all the reasons sighted why this dog would be rehomed, especially not wiling to put in the time for remedial training like housebreaking.

    Just to speak up for local rescue, Carolina BCR would have been more than happy to help assuming the dog were in danger.  They have access to every type of foster home from companion training, to agility trainers, to "waystations," right up to three different working trainers, including me.  It takes all types to save a dog, and no one ever assumes a dog is hopeless based on a web site listing.  :)  It's just some rescues/fosters are set up to work with particular dogs with particular needs, and some are not. 

    No home can be everything to every dog.  This would have worked particularly well because I knew people out that way, and CBCR could have helped with transport (and emergency foster in case something happened with my surgery), and I happened to be going north soonish, and if the dog had turned out to be unworkable for Anne, Plan A I could have worked with the dog, Plan B Anne had alternate plans.

    That's an ideal long distance transport.  LOTS of options and flexibility.  And great people.  When I was a leader in my rescue group, I constantly reminded our crew that the volunteers were our most important resource.  Without people who felt good about what they were doing, dogs don't get saved - 'cause the pay really stinks!  Smile

    • Gold Top Dog

    I don't disagree with you at all nor is there any conflict.  I am going by the original post, the OP's offer to the dog which is not good in my opinion, and I think I gave pretty good advise at what the likely scenario would be and maybe avoid a future disappointment to the OP.  The rescue networks work for both the dog at risk and not at risk but is lined with doer people that have to make judgement calls with very little information provided to them.  Having a name like yourself or maybe myself makes for less judgement calls by others involved.

    • Gold Top Dog


    I am happy for Cyrus, evidence here that you can save them all. 

    Well, maybe you, the Almighty can, but that mentality is what got one of my students a SA dog that is now eating her woodwork, when all she wanted was a dog that would keep her older dog company, not cost her a gazillion dollars in behavior consultations and medication... whatever - why don't I see more Pit Bulls in your back yard if that's how you feel?

    There is a lot of great offers to help get the dog to a new location and those are a very unselfish acts.  But as a rescuer who does bring in dogs from far away locations there is also a lot of effort in stringing the offers of help together and that is not mentioning the effort to have backups for backups. 

    You don't know me very well - if I could not arrange a transport from this board, I certainly have other options, including paying for private transport, if necessary.  If you think I would ever leave a dog of mine stranded, you don't know me very well. I can drive to NC in fourteen hours if I have to, and drove truck enough years to not need a map to get there.

    From the original post, I think this rescue would be disqualified by the rescue networks because of all the reasons sighted why this dog would be rehomed, especially not wiling to put in the time for remedial training like housebreaking.  The rescue would be more successful if a rescue organization would be the new guardian, and then again some of the really good transport coordinators do not believe in moving a dog from one shelter situation to another situation.  They will tell you right out that the dog would be better off PTS.  When first confronted with this, I had to a lot of convincing of why the dog would be better off with me. 

    I don't know how your network works, but the shelter director in this case requested that I keep in touch in case another dog was of interest, so apparently this rescue would NOT have been disqualified.  It is no crime to be honest and tell a shelter or rescue what you do or do not want in a dog.  Why do you think shelters list qualifications for dogs such as "good with kids", "no cats", "special needs", or "afraid of men"????

    One other thing, I would call the shelter first before trying to put together a rescue and gets some observation facts.  The software that runs Dogs in Danger requires an entry for a euth date.  I have encountered dogs on that website that are not really in danger of PTS and it really is not fair to those dogs that have a euth date.  The organization mentioned in the OP is a rescue organization and not a goverment unit and also advertise on Petfinders.  I could not tell from their website whether they are a no-killer shelter.

    Just because I did not post the correspondence here does not mean that inquiries were not made.  And, to be honest, I don't care if the dog is in immediate danger or not.  If he was in rescue or a no-kill shelter, and me or anyone else adopted him, then that space is freed up for them to save another dog.  Don't you get how the system works?????  Also, if someone is looking for a therapy dog prospect, or an agility prospect, for example, they are  not just there to save the first dog that would die if they didn't take it - they want a dog for a purpose, and that is fine.  Better that they should get a dog from a rescue or a shelter, than to buy it in a pet store so that the kill shelters keep getting filled up with the puppy mill rejects that aren't good for breeding any more....anyone who doesn't see that connection has to have concrete between the ears.  You are mad at the wrong people.

    I do like that a private effort was in the making for rescue a dog.

    You wouldn't know it from your inability to control the impulse to come here and dump on me for trying to help a dog who might fit the bill as my next therapy dog.  And, oh by the way, the reason I cannot house train a dog right now is that I am not home to let it out, nor do I want to keep a dog crated for eight hours while the rest of the pack has the run of the house.  And, because the wonderful doggy daddy who used to  help me with this task is now in a rehab hospital fighting for his life.  Right now, under the circumstances, I am having a hard time resisting the temptation to say something insulting.

     

    • Gold Top Dog

    Spiritdogs, I have given you and others very good advise for future inquiries when trying to rescue a dog and it was based on the original post and as I said sometimes that skimpy information is all we that are in rescues day in and day out have to go on to make judgement calls in the best interest of the dog.  You should look at this as an education opportunity for you and not an opportunity to respond in a belligerant post.

    • Gold Top Dog

    I trust Spiritdog's judgement and I don't think she needed an education in rescue, especially since she has been involved in it for quite some time, as well. And is certainly likely to know the ins and outs of rescue in her area. Not to mention that she is an evaluator. And I think there are various avenues of rescue and different people might just have slightly different approaches.

    • Gold Top Dog

    Anne, please feel free to educate me any time on rehab/rescue/eval/training.  Your posts have taught me enough over the years that I've learned how "head knowledge" can greatly enhance "practical experience" - and motivates me to pursue more formal training/study.

    Perhaps we can work together on a rescue once I've recovered from my surgery.  CBCR would probably be happy to work with us if you don't mind one of those pesky BCs.  Oooh, I just thought of someone else and I just sent a note off to her.  She gets REALLY nice dogs that typically are just rough around the edges from neglect. 

    • Gold Top Dog

    I'm so glad she got rescued.  I am a little late but would have offered NJ transport please keep me in mind if the need ever arises again!!

    • Gold Top Dog

    I just got off the phone with my friend -- SHE"s been trying to get in here all day to reply that she would have driven to Carteret to get him.  (She's in Durham -- a hike like for Becca but she too works with rescue and had already made inquires if it all fell thru could they take him and rehab him if need be so he had 'options';)

    I'm just glad he got a home -- as Chris said to me on the phone "sometimes it just takes getting all that prayer and good vibes going out there in the ozone!!"

    • Gold Top Dog

     Also late to the game, but I can do I81 transport too in northern PA and NY. I am near the intersection of 86, 88 and 81 and an hour south of 90, so feel free to PM if the need ever arises. I am back and forth to DC a lot and also Cape Cod.