Dogs at my school

    • Gold Top Dog
    Also, the only real breed we have is beagles. All of the rest are just mutts, the result of breeding anything to anything (good for research  I suppose because you don't have breed-specific weaknesses or tendencies)
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    I am not against animal testing.
     
    I think thats self explanatory.
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    Plague Dogs is also one of my favorite books, as is Watership Down. PD is a good reminder of how, in some cases, cold and unfeeling and useless certain forms of "research" can be. But it all depends on where you are and what time pd.

     
    Thanks for explaining all of that. It makes sense now why they are raised as puppies and do not have indoor-outdoor kennels. I am also wondering, and maybe you can answer this...Are the dogs and cats treated much worse in labratories where they are using household and cometic research? Like I have always heard that Proctor & Gamble has MANY research animals that are treated pretty bad. So in medical research are the animals generally treated more humane?
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    Respectfully, I beg to differ.  Nutritional trials can not be done without live animals.  Some drug trials can not be done without live subjects.  I want well researched drug protocals tested and confirmed before those medications are used on people or other animals. 
     
    Not all training programs for techs and vets could have full clinic options for training procedures.  Dogs used for the training of medical personnel cared for this manner makes sense to me.  If something went wrong there is staff to intervene and no ones pet is involved.  In this litigious society, such claims could bankrupt a practice or a training program.
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    My thoughts... Can all testing be done without animals? Definitely. There are a long list of people out there on their last legs waiting for a cure or treatment to their disease - people willing to trial anything be it medication or surgery that could help. There are ads on tv each day asking for participants to be paid in medication trails. There isn't a need for testing on animals, not for medications, products or surgeries anymore. Back when the first heart surgery break throughs were performed on animals, those cases helped medicine make huge leaps in progress. These days people have that choice to volunteer for surgeries never performed before, animals still don't. I can't help but breath a sigh of relief when I pick up a product that says "Not tested on animals".
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    There are a long list of people out there on their last legs waiting for a cure or treatment to their disease -
     
    Really? People willing to be infected with HW/worms so doc's can develop new heartworm or worming meds, dog or kitty vaccines tested on them? Who knew? lol...
     
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    There are a long list of people out there on their last legs waiting for a cure or treatment to their disease - people willing to trial anything be it medication or surgery that could help.

     
    Maybe this is true - but this thread is about live animals being used in Veterinary School...  Do they even use dogs for human disease research??  I thought they pretty much just used rats. 
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    The dogs (and cats) are only used to study dog and cat disorders/disease/conditions.  We have seperate facilities, mostly mice and rats, for any human disease work. And since we're a vet school, the human diseases are usually animal-borne or animal-"vectored" diseases (zoonoses).....so using the mice/rats is necessary to study the pathogenesis and try prevention.