Smartest dog

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    Siberians as 45? Malamutes as 50? Ha...
     
    I've seen this survey before, and it seems the most obedient dogs are at the top of the list while the independant thinkers were much lower... at least that would seem the general trend.
     
    I think they have truely confused intelligence and obedience. Maddi's got to be one of the smartest dogs I've ever seen, but she will not do something unless she deems the reward fitting to the task (i.e., why come if you don't have a treat?).
     
     
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    HA!  I didn't even have to look at the link to know that Basset Hounds would be at the bottom!  The nose wins every time!  But Basset owners know how smart they are...it is called selective obedience only if I feel like it and there is a treat involved!
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    Jee Now I'm embarrassed. Out of 79, shih tzus are number 70....
     
    Well, I am one to admit, daisy isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, but she's no dummy either- she has a very good memory. We went to where my room-mate rides horses once (about a year ago) and brought the dogs- and we went back there recently, and she knew the grounds like she lived there!
     
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    HA!  Will is a 76!  I think a lot of people mistake chows for being unintelligent because they don't immediately jump to please people.  Willow is actually an exception, she learned all the commands very quickly.  Now, if I tell her to do something and she wants to do something else, well then I've got a battle of wills on my  hands.  But, she knows the command, just chooses to do her own thing.  Which she does not get away with.  :)
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    I think this is the Coren list.  I think there are too many variables to rank intelligence of breeds.  And what exactly is "working" intelligence?  My breed, basenjis, ranked second from the bottom.  I haven't found basenjis difficult to train (harder to motivate than many other breeds, but that's quite different), but if you're using the old jerk-and-pull methods, you might never get your basenji trained.  Of course many, many trainers aren't able or willing to be flexible to look into different methods and ways of training. 
     
    I don't think the list is based on 3 types of intelligence.  The homepage of this link does say there are 3 different types of intelligence, but the list says
     "[size=3]Ranking of Dogs for Obedience/Working Intelligence by Breed"  [/size]
     
    It also states that the other types are based on the individual, but the obedience is based on breed.  Personally, I'm not sure how you can say that.
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    I agree with Jennie_c_d, Dasher (JRT) is personally offended he didn't make the list!! [:D] As far as he is concerned, he should have been #1!![:)] Seriously though, I think Dasher is very bright, he catches on to new behaviors very quickly and he is very biddable...oh well, maybe we will make the list next year!![8D]
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    Well,  I wouldn't call Emma biddable, or easy to train, but she IS quite trainable. It took a little effort to find an appropriate training method, but she works quite well for me, now.