mom biting her pups...

    • Gold Top Dog
    Sable, I want you to know that a few of us have been in a situation close to the one you're in right now.  Yes there's going to be a lot of frustration vented but please don't let that dissuade you from asking for help.

    As of right now, by asking your vet for help and joining up on this forum, you're doing some good positive things. 

    What's important is that you not leave the momma dog alone with these pups for more than a few short minutes at a time.  Don't let any of your other dogs go into the whelping room for a couple of days.  In fact, rather than letting them into the room, let the momma go out of the room to take a break every now and then.  Mothering can be very stressful work.

    I've never had to help with the whelping or rearing of pups, but I know that Glenda (glenmar) has, and I'm sure she would be glad to help you out if you have further questions.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Yes, I have a lot of experience and I'm always happy to help.
    • Bronze
    thanks to all who tried to help....just wanted to clear up a few things. the pups and mom are doing great,i talked to my vet and she said to keep an eye on mom too,which i do,she is nursing and a good mom now.i live in Canada not the states and come from a small community where dogs are treated good.we don't have a stray problem here.the pups are going to a local pet store and they are helping with costs which are really not bad.i only have to feed some of the small ones a couple times of day to help mom.so far it has cost me $7.00 for the formula and they are all getting big.the little guy that got bit has no sign of infection or anything,he feeds normally. mom is in a little alcove of our livingroom so she is watched all the time,at night i put a baby gate up and my other dog sleeps with me at night.he doesn't even try to go around them.and i found a vet to spay her for $150.00.she already has an appointment made for after the puppies go and she is dried up(i just have to keep the vet updated with that)
    as for the fact that 'lovinmydogs' made : 
    "It makes me angry when people say they took the dog in because they felt sorry for it, and then they end up treating it almost as badly as the other owners!!"
     here is what she had to go through before i got her: punched in the head while giving birth,had some of her pups outside and one died( it was was winter time and cold),being tied outside in the summer with no food or water,being beat and kicked,running away and noone bothering to pick her up,never played with or taught things too...and the list goes on.here she has food all the time and fresh water( i wouldn't want to drink stale water so why should my dogs)she is in from the cold, sheltered from the heat,i sat up all night and reassured her while she was birthing i even held the water dish to her so she wouldn't have to move,she plays ball and catch with us,she knows now how to do tricks and most importantly she is loved and respected. so it makes me mad that this person can judge without knowing.

    to those of you that did help me, i thank you and god bless.[:)]

    to those who wanted to judge me when all i wanted was some help ( i already knew i should have had her spayed regardless of the cost,but now too late) i will not be posting anymore..i thought this was a place to get advice,not be judged by those who don't me. i have also told alot of my friends with animals to not ask advice here,you'll just get your head bit off by those who feel they are perfect.[>:]

    again thanks to all the kind ones on here...if they were all like you, i would ask for advice all the time,but i don't want to go through this no more.
    • Gold Top Dog
    You'll do what you feel is right for you, but honestly I just went back and re read this thread and didn't see where anyone was that awful.  THIS is nothing compared to some of the stuff that's gone on in the past.
     
    You need to understand where WE are coming from.  Not only do we love dogs, but many of us are actively involved in rescue, in fostering and working with shelters.  And yes, many of us are in the US where the dog overpopulation and irresponsible owners are horrific.  My last foster litter was out of a purebred, showdog momma who got loose and LEFT when her people were at their "summer place" and couldn't be bothered to so much as put a lost ad in the paper, OR call the stray shelter...and yes, I'm sure because my son worked at the stray shelter.  Many months later, when it ws convenient for them to return to our little corner of the world, THEN they started looking for her and her pups, which is why I know her history.  Well, momma was spayed and placed, the pups were all placed in excellent homes and no one was about to tell those fools where any of the dogs were. But these freaking idiots wanted to be compensated for "their lost revenue"?????????????????[:@]  Hello?  What about the rescue who saved their girl, and the foster mom who loved and raised, vaccinated and trained the pups?  That would be ME.  So even a purebred being bred, unless it's by a responsible and reputable breeder, yep, makes my blood boil.
     
    Honestly, you got off easy in this thread.  We have one member in Canada who was just beaten BLOODY when she showed up with her mixed breed new litter concerns.  But, ya know what? She pm'd those of us who were trying to help, she picked our brains and she TALKED to us.  She learned a lot from us, stuck around and is grateful for what she learned.  Oh, and she had her dog spayed.  She's still with us, despite the rocky start.
     
    We aren't all bad.  Just passionate.
    • Gold Top Dog

    ORIGINAL: sable72

    the pups are going to a local pet store...


    I really, really hope they're placing the puppies on a spay/neuter contract. If not, well, that's exactly how the pet overpopulation problem continues. [&o]
    • Gold Top Dog
    If I had a litter of puppies in my home, I wouldn't send them to a pet shop.  I'd want to meet the people that were going to buy them for a start.  I'd want to be as sure as I could they were going to good homes.  I'd have a neuter contract on each one.  I'd want to make sure the buyers knew what they were getting into because I'd tell them.  I'd want the buyers to return the pup to me if they couldn't cope and I'd try to place it again rather than have it end up in a rescue somewhere.  But that's just me. 

    Plus I abhore pet shops that sell puppies.  Puppies should not be bought and sold at pet shops.  I don't support it by buying pups from them and if I got landed with a litter I wouldn't support it by sending the pups there either. 

    IMO the majority of knowledgeable and responsible people will feel the same as I do about pet shops and therefore will not buy your puppies from that shop.  They will want to see the conditions the puppies were raised in.  They will want to see the dam and the human family that have been caring for them.  They don't want to support puppy mills which is where a lot of pet shop pups come from (unless its different in Canada)  So if the responsible and knowledgeale people aren't likely to buy.....where does that leave the pups you helped bring into the world? 

    Maybe I'm way off on this one, maybe its different in Canada than in the US or UK.... In which case by all means ignore me!  [:D]  But I do agree with Luvntzus in that I just hope that the shop at least has a spay/neuter contract on them.  It's great you don't have a problem with strays.... best keep it that way.....
    • Puppy

    Ah this is my 1sy visit to this site and unsure how I feel well I'm certainly not posting my question at this time this poor woman posts a serious question for help and gets reamed Bc the dog wasn't spayed.seriously! A pups life could of been in jeapardy and she did need helpful advice quickly Bc potentially could been dangerous but pups life was priority at the moment afterwards maybe ask if she knew importance of slaying a dog.. I hope and pray your momma and pup are doing well with eachother...b4 I get attacked by some extremests I'm firm believer in spay/neuter and I support no kill shelters!  I 've breed my Chihuahua's..well the 2 litters we have now are the last .... ..

    • Puppy

    Seriously there were more posts about slaying the dog omg...I read your reply and cant fight the tears what that poor baby went through. People..if you want to help and say your passionate..stick to the question at hand and go to your local church and take a course on compassion and how to be non judging! Who do you think you are! Hide behind the claim of bring passionate yeah right.. you have no right to judge so what if she Wanted a litter the question was about mom biting...so what if u work at a shelter. Its horrible thing animal abuse should be a felony but she posted a question and u supposedly responded Bc u think you want to help people maybe take some of that passion u say you have and use this site with it correctly by answering the question with passion compassion and like you are suppose to or don't reply...no way will I post my question here!