I don't know how to approach this...

espencer

Your dog came to you with a problem created by the previous owner by allowing the puppies to "compete" for the food, it was the owner's fault for not to prevent that behavior, again, it was a human who created the problem by doing or not doing something about it, i agree is not your fault but still is a human fault. Its easier for the human to place a huge plate for everybody to eat rather than to have a plate for each one to exactly prevent resource guarding 

Ahem. You are aware that in a litter of puppies, mama doesn't make the pups line up and wait their turn for nursing? Competing for food is what puppies do by necessity. There are even some people who think that a puppy born as the only offspring is more likely to develop frustration problems because he never has to deal with struggling against the litter for the milkies.

It is a nice thought, that humans "allow" puppies to compete for food, but the reality is different. It is fierce, being a young puppy and trying to get to the nipples. Passive puppies don't eat much.
 

Espencer, your beliefs about the role of genetics are not at all mainstream in today's world. Biologists, ethologists, breeders and trainers - most agree that genetics are pretty darn important and that dogs are more varied than you seem to think.
 

espencer

GoldenAC

I think it is funny that you assume that the breeder I know does not fulfills the needs of her dogs. 

 

Quote please

GoldenAC

She can control them, but they are still dog to dog aggressive.

 

Then she actually cant control them, for someone so experienced its weird that her dogs still have behavioral problems, unless she just let them be that way with the perfect excuse of "they are just born that way, its in their DNA". Like i said before, not even pitbulls 

Boy am I late responding tp this, but my real life gets in the way. 

Yes, she can control them.  They are not attacking other dogs, they are under control.  However, dogs can still be dog aggressive even when they are not actively displaying aggression.  She does not consider dog aggression a behavioral problem.

I don't agree with her.  I don't think dogs who are living in a suburban setting should be dog aggression.  I believe it should be bred away from.  I wish all Mal breeders were like yours.  However, I have no influence on her or on other Mal breeders or the breed.  The breeder I know does and therefore her position is affecting the breed.  And it is for that reason, I think that everyone who is discussing Mal temperaments should be aware there is dog aggression in some Mal lines.

GoldenAC

I don't think dogs who are living in a suburban setting should be dog aggression.  I believe it should be bred away from. 

Thank you for saying this.  You have no idea what it means to me to hear it said on this board.  I was put in the position of having to defend this statement and I really appreciate hearing someone else agrees with this statement.

espencer

i have seen that episode

When I mentioned the episode two or three times before, you had no idea what I was talking about, leading me to believe that perhaps you hadn't seen that episode. But, yeah, you can have your D W crown back.

espencer

most of us here are not trainers but i bet you have watched DVD's and read books, does that mean that you cant give advice? i for example have done that too, gone to seminars and have first hand experience with my dogs and friend's dogs, one of them human aggressive

And yes, we all give advice based on what we have read, seen, and done. And you just got done saying don't listen to a certified professional because "he/she" may not know what they are talking about because one such person didn't agree with you. But, that is probably the nature of an open forum with topics for debate.