Skittish dog

    • Gold Top Dog

    Skittish dog

    Hello all,

    I'm new here but I didn't take me long to realize what a knowledgeable bunch you guys are. I personally do not have alot of dog experience. I had my Basset Hound for 14 years; and I have had Veronica for 18 months, but that's pretty much it. I have never dealt with skittish/fearful behavior before.

    Here's the poop. Veronica was never a particularly fearful pup, although she did exhibit some fear of garbage bags blowing and overhead lights during the typical fear stages. She was never bothered by thunder and I swear she had heard fireworks from inside the house and wasn't phased.

    Christmas she saw and heard fireworks at close range. They were the pretty colors in the sky kind; but they still seemed kinda close. We only watched for a minute. When I looked down and realized she was terrified we went in. Since then she has periodically exhibited skittish/fearful behavior. She is normally a very out-going, social dog, very pushy, has to be the center of attention. When she gets spooked, she gets very quiet, she'll look around apprehensively (esp. at overhead lights) and she'll withdraw to her crate.

    I was hoping she would just "snap out ot it" and she seemed to be doing fine; then the smoke alarm went off because the batteries were running low. It got her started up again, And 3 days after that she heard thunder and caught a glipmse of lightening from the slider...back to her crate.

     When she looks at something fearfully we try to "name it" which is a bridge and target method. We tell her what it is and it's not to worry about. But other than this...I don't know what to do.

    There is nothing destructive, or out of control or even remotely aggressive about her fear. She looks like she wants to fold in on herself and disappear. It's heart wrenching. Any help would be much appreciated.

    • Gold Top Dog

    Welcome!!!  You say you are not knowledgeable, but just from this post you sound like a very dog-savvy person!

    When she looks at something fearfully we try to "name it" which is a bridge and target method. We tell her what it is and it's not to worry about. But other than this...I don't know what to do.

    I have a dog with some fear issues.  They are a bit wider spread than your dog's (she is mainly skittish around new people, mostly men, and like your dog she is not at all aggressive or destructive) and this method is what my trainer recommended to me.  Since she is a German Shepherd, her nature is to be more aloof but also alert and attentive so this method works well - marking and rewarding her for taking the look and then again if I can get her to focus back on me.  I have had her for almost six months and basically we are just still working on the fear of new people issue.  In the beginning, she would startle at ANY noise, quick movement, etc.

    Do you do any clicker training?  What I am trying with my dog now is Emma Parson's "Click to Calm" in conjunction with very gradual desensitization.

    Sorry, I don't have much else to offer b/c I'm sort of dealing with the same type of thing. 

    • Gold Top Dog

    Thank you so much for the support. I've been feeling like I "broke" my dog; having exposed her to the fireworks.

    I feel better knowing I'm on the right track with the "naming", but I wasn't really marking & rewarding because I wasn't sure if I was doing the right thing. I will start that & get the rest of the crew on board!

    I haven't done alot with clicker trainng. I have clickers and I've introduced her to it a bit on my own. It is so funny you should mention Emma Parsons "Click to Calm" I have it on my bedside table...I haven't started it yet, but there is a long weekend coming up!

    • Gold Top Dog
    • Gold Top Dog

     Here's another link for you

    http://www.fearfuldogs.com/index.html 

    • Gold Top Dog

    I don't have any knowledgable advice to give you, but I want to support you. I have thunder phobic (loud noises) dog too it is not fun to deal with. Mine started when she was around 4 (she is now 11) it has "improved" but not going to go away. My young dog has lately been "nervous" about a few things. I am hoping it does not develop into anything. 

     

    Good Luck! 

    • Gold Top Dog

    Thank you so much everyone!

    Right now I am at work, so I am only "peeking" at the forumSurprise.

    I will check those links out tonight!

    Just got a message from my Mom as well, Veronica is "more herself today" and is on the screened in deck, watching the squirrels shell peanuts in the yard.

    • Gold Top Dog

    Just adding my support and well wishes

    • Gold Top Dog

    Hello all,

    Just wanted to give you guys an update since you took the time to be helpful and supportive.

    Veronica seems to be doing OK. About 80% of the time she is "herself". 15% of the time she acts "apprehensive". She will look at the lights, or at the microwave, the oven (she's generalized her fear to anything with noise and light) - and I will use the techniques recommended by Liesje.

    5% of the time she will really get spooked and hide in her crate. I have not been able to lure her out of her crate in these instances. My first thought was "let her work it out and come out on her own"...but she doesn't. I could be wrong, but to my way of thinking, the longer she stays in there scared and dwelling on whatever spooked her, the more reinforced that state of mind becomes. So now I put her collar on, get her leash and guide her out.


    I walk her around the house, talking to her calmly. I can usually tell what area has spooked her so I walk her there, have her sit, give her treats, tell her it is OK. I have noticed this helps tremendously. After I do this, I take off the leash and she goes about her business like nothing happened.

    If I saw that by intervening in this way it was escalating her fear, or if she were scared the entire time; I wouldn't do it...it would be time to call a professional behvaiorist. However since I see this approach seems to de-escalate her fear...she seems to feel better the moment the leash is on...then I think we are on the right track. Especially since it disrupts the moment of being spooked...she doesn't go back to being afraid...until something else spooks her.

    So...work in progress...but so far I'm hopeful! Thanks everyone for your help!

     

    • Puppy

    I have a 14 year old shitzu thats getting more skittish every day, the toaster scares him, ratteling plates scare him, OMG, thunder this morning I woke up with him laying on my back, he never used to do that. He has catarachts , I wanted to have them removed but couldnt afford it. I cant tell if its his sight  loss thats doing this to him. Hes healthy, sweet, I dont get it. Im very worried. And I hope you dont mind me posting with you but I was hoping I could see what everyone tells you .

    • Gold Top Dog

     FYI, this post is two years old.