Dog poop everywhere.

    • Silver

    Dog poop everywhere.

    Im new here. This is my first post. Had to  seek out some help.

    I have a puppy that I have only had a couple of weeks. He has been doing really good with house training. Sometimes in the middle of the night he will have an accident but for the most part he holds it till someone wakes up and lets him outside.

    Last night I got another dog. He too is housebroken. He came from my sister.. she says he hasnt had any accidents in weeks.

    I understand theres a territorial thing but I went to bed last night and woke up this morning and there is poop and pee everywhere. I cleaned up at least ten piles of poop.. both dogs. And 20 different pee spots. They were everywhere. Were these dogs just marking their territory or is this gonna be an ongoing thing? What can I do to ensure this wont happen again? Let me know if you need more info. Im thinking one of them might need to go but I like them both and they seem to love playing together and are pretty happy aside from the mess and they get a little fiesty over food and attention but I can work through those.

    TIA For any advice.
    • Silver
    Well.. last night they did it again. Along with chewing up one of my nice dress shoes. Anyone gonna input on this before I send one to the pound?
    • Gold Top Dog
    I'd say you need to crate them at night and while your not home. Separately, of course.
     
    No offense, but you took on this responsibility and sending one to the "pound" is rather irresponsible. Pets are not disposable objects, they are a life in your hands. Maybe your sister wasn't quite honest with you about her pup being housebroken and that's why she was so willing to give it to you.
     
    If you can't deal with it, then you should be willing to find it a real home, not simply dump it at the shelter. It would be a more responsible way to handle it.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Dogs can lose their housetraining when in new places or new situations. With puppies, the housetraining was already mostly likely tentative at best. With a brand new house for one dog and a brand new other dog showing up for the other, I'm not in the least surprised that there are housetraining issues. They're just puppies. Crate them when they can't be supervised (which includes at night) and keep the housetraining consistent.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Yes, crate them.
    You took on the responsibility, you should have done some research on what problems could arise.
    Can't just dump one at the pound.....yikes[8|]
    • Gold Top Dog
    You can't leave stuff like this laying around when you have a puppy. They need to chew.

    ORIGINAL: Kavey

    Well.. last night they did it again. Along with chewing up one of my nice dress shoes. Anyone gonna input on this before I send one to the pound?
    • Gold Top Dog
    I cleaned up at least ten piles of poop.. both dogs. And 20 different pee spots.

     
    if your dogs have enough in them to make ten piles and pee 20 times they need to be going outside more times and more often.
     
    it sounds as if your puppies need some good training, maybe finding a puppy training class in your area would be a good idea.
     
    please do not just dump one of them at the pound, you chose to take them on as a responsibility, it would be very unfair to one of those dogs to just get rid of it because you didnt want to take the time to deal with its issues. they can be trained to not do this, you just have to take the time to do it. please choose to be responsible and give these pups proper training, if you need help with that there is a whole forum here full of people who would be more than happy to help.
    • Silver
    This is exactly why I came to this forum is to try and find help. Not a soul would offer any advice UNTIL I got to the point of giving up. I dont need judgement Im trying to find advice but I cannot afford to have everything in my house chewed up and all my carpets ruined. They get out very often they just choose to not go while outside.
    • Gold Top Dog
    I don't know how old these dogs are, but I would suggest going outside with them and being sure they've done their business before bed-time. I would then crate them, seperately, at night - at least for a while. If they're puppies (ie younger than about 12 weeks) they probably also will need one potty trip in the middle of the night.

    I can understand your frustration - and as some of the others have said often the housetraining does not automatically generalize from "don't pee in this house" to "don't pee in *any* house". I would treat both dogs as if they weren't house-trained at all, and tighten back up. Good luck!
    • Gold Top Dog
    I agree with crating when you are not supervising, or having them in a small area contained at least.  Are you home at all during the day?  What is your schedule like?  This would be helpful in making a working, realistic housebreaking routine for you and your dogs/pups.  How old are both dogs?  Also helpful info. to make a plan.
     
    The chewing can be fixed by giving the dogs appropriate toys to chew on (then praise when they chew on them) and not allowing them access at all to any of your items you don't want chewed.  You can't eliminate chewing because it's just one of those things that dogs do.  Puppies teeth and they will chew. 
    • Gold Top Dog
    I'll not tell you what litters of gsd pups...not even my own, but fosters...have eaten in my house.  One good thing, it certainly sharpens the housekeeping skills!
     
    When I am housetraining a litter they have limited time outside the xpen and when they are out I'm watching them like a hawk AND going outside with them at VERY regular intervals.  And, I stay outside with them so I can praise for GOOOOOD potty when they do their thing outside where it belongs.
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: Kavey

    This is exactly why I came to this forum is to try and find help. Not a soul would offer any advice UNTIL I got to the point of giving up. I dont need judgement Im trying to find advice but I cannot afford to have everything in my house chewed up and all my carpets ruined. They get out very often they just choose to not go while outside.


    If they "choose" not to eliminate outdoors, it could be because someone scolded them for accidents.  Pups sometimes learn that it is not safe to pee/poop in front of the human.
    There's a good book (inexpensive) - "Way to Go - How to Housetrain a Dog of Any Age" by Patricia McConnell (www.dogsbestfriendtraining.com).  I suggest you get it, and I suggest that you crate the pups when you can't watch them, and supervise them (with one, I would have suggested tethering them to you) when they are out of the crates.  Praise when they go outdoors, and even reward with a tidbit just as they have finished. 
    • Silver
    They are about 14 and 11 weeks. They both are fine alone. I hate crates.. I do have them but it seems so inhumane. I work during the day but my fiancee is  at home. They have tons of toys and I give them rawhide chews when they are good (go outside). They rarely have accidents during the day. Only at night while Im sleeping. I have taken to putting them both in the bathroom with linoleum floor but then they whine all night. I give them a blanket and a water bowl but no food hoping they can control it a bit.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Well you have two puppies.  Neither one of whom should be able to (by the two hour rule) be able to hold it much more than 2 hours.  You don't want to crate them because you think it's cruel, but you will give them free roam of the house.  And you're mad that they have destroyed your property and soiled your carpets. 

    I think you should confine, supervise and train them.

    Confine them to a "safe" room or a crate when you're not there.

    Supervise them any time that they are not in the crate, or the safe room.

    Train them that going outside is a joy and is appropriate.

    With two dogs you have quadrupled your workload in training these two.  Dogs don't come instinctively knowing what is right and what is wrong.  They need to be taught.  You don't drop a child off at a foster home because they haven't potty trained themselves.  You teach them what is right and what is acceptable.  Dogs, like most other animals, follow the path of least resistance.  They seek to keep their den clean.  But a puppy of 11 or 14 weeks has no idea what is "den" and what is "not den."  It's your responsibility (you're the mommy now) to teach them the difference.

    Get the book recommended by Anne (spiritdogs.)  Having two dogs can be very very rewarding, although a lot more work.
    • Gold Top Dog
    I hate crates.. I do have them but it seems so inhumane.

     
    I disagree that crates are inhumane.  Crating a young puppy is much more humane than having your things ruined and destroyed on a daily basis.  Waking up to poop everywhere would not be acceptable and crating the pups would be a much easier solution.  Allowing young puppies free roam of the house is like letting a 2 yr old free run of the house unsupervised.  Not only is it dangerous for the child/puppy but imagine the disaster awaiting you when you get home from work! 
     
    Dogs earn their freedom step by step as they mature and learn what is expected behavior in the house.  It's that simple.  If you rush them and assume they are housebroken before they are, you will be cleaning up lots of poop and pee in the house!  Not to menion all your destroyed property.