Millan's New Book "Be The pack Leader"

 I'm interested. :)

I plan on getting it.......have you read it?

I'll have to get the book first and yes lively but I don't think painful, heated, or violent.

 I just picked it up yesterday and have only read the introductions. One interesting thing that might interest those who are more opposed to him is that he does mention that he has spent a lot of time learning from others and has invested time into learning some of the methods suggested by those who oppose him. I thought it shows a lot of humility and willingness to listen that cannot always be said by the ones in the opposing camp.

yeah, I picked up a copy yesterday as well.

while browsing through it, i noted that he was talking about positive training somewhere around p46 (roughly) but i did not spend quality time reading it. he did mention that positive training was great for tricks and teaching dogs NEW things but for severe problems, it was a slower process than his usual correction (called negative in the operant camp) methods.

i'm willing to discuss it but i would like to get into the book first before doing so....  so..... perhaps next week for me to engage herein.

I thought it was going to come out till November, time to go to the library

I don't plan on getting it, unless I see it at a second-hand bookstore or flea market, or even at the library, *off topic* I'll be interested to follow the discussion to see how it unfolds. I saw Cesar's Way at a flea market the other day and almost bought it.

 Someday I'll read it, as yes, contrary to popular belief of some, the "opposition" does in fact very much believe in learning about all sides and methodologies as much as the next person. ;-) I wouldn't have Koehler, the Dog Listener, or several other books on my shelves if that was the case. *off topic*

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it was a slower process than his usual correction (called negative in the operant camp) methods.

No particular opinion, though it sounds like an interesting read, maybe. I was just going to be a smart aleck and point out that CM's corrections are positive, as in positive punishment, the introduction of a stimulus that is designed to stop the undesired behavior.

Peace out...

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 *G* Don't worry, I'm not jealous either.  

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Perhaps *removed* we can get back to the topic of the post, which is discussing his newest book. As I've said, I'm interested in seeing what it's about,  *off topic*

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I do believe this is in reference to folks who will read his book,and talking about the book, *edited*