Play Biting

    • Gold Top Dog

    Play Biting

    How did you discourage your puppy not to nip while playing?  I've been working with Harley on it for the month that I've had her and she is getting better.  But just now my BF was out in the yard playing with her and he had her toy in his hand and she nipped him on the leg.  He got mad and told her no and she rolled over on her back.  She knows she's not supposed to do it, but she still does. 
     
    When she does it with me I tell her no and play stops.  Are there any other techniques that have worked for you? 
     
    I'm just afraid, that since it makes him so mad, that he'll tell me that he doesn't want her.  There is no way I would ever get rid of her.  She loves him and just gets excited. Any advise would be appreciated.   
    • Gold Top Dog
    How did you discourage your puppy not to nip while playing?

    Yelp like a hurt puppy and ignore the pup for 1-2 minutes.  That means not even looking at the pup.
     
    Please remind your BF that the pup is a baby!  What the pup is doing is perfectly normal puppy play.
     
    She knows she's not supposed to do it, but she still does. 

    Why do you assume that?
     
    What age is your pup?  How early was the pup taken from its mother?
    • Gold Top Dog
    She knows she's not supposed to do it, but she still does.

    Think about this one for a minute.  How many times do you have to tell a child to look both ways before crossing a street?  Any parent will tell you that it takes lots of repetitions before they even begin to trust the child.
     
    Puppies need lots of repetitions in various locations.  In addition, they may remember their "manners" when there are few distractions, but completely forget when they get excited.  Just like human kids!!
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    Yes, how old is the pup?
     
    In all honesty, if the pup is still young and in its chewy phase, I do NOT discourage puppy mouthing! At least not at first (and I personally don't discourage it anyhow). A puppy learns through its mouth. One of the most important things it learns with its mouth is HOW to use it. They usually learn this great through interactions with their mother and litter, however even the best litter-raised pups still need to learn how to use their mouths with people. This is because even though pups learn how to use it on each other, we humans are very wimpy things, and our skin is much more sensitive, even to the puppy-inhibited bites!
     
    So my recommendation (as a puppy owner, breeder, and someday-to-be-trainer...haha) is that you teach the pup bite INHIBITION, not bite prohibition. I've written an article that you might find helpful:
    [linkhttp://www.miniatureschnauzer.ca/training/biteinhibition.htm]http://www.miniatureschnauzer.ca/training/biteinhibition.htm[/link]
     
    That's how I teach pups bite inhibition. Most pups will eventually stop performing the bitey behaviour as they grow up. If you really don't want pups mouthing you at all, teach the inhibition first, THEN the prohibition. There's no harm in that, but don't jump right to prohibition, because you never know when in life your dog is going to put its mouth on you, and you want the dog to know how to do so, so that if the circumstance ever arises, it won't cause damage to you (or at least has the lowest probability of causing damage to you).
     
    Kim
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    bite her back. i know what it sounds like, but it worked for my apbt when my husband did it and i was skeptical myself. it's how the alpha would train one, and you are the pack leader.
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: allick06

    bite her back. i know what it sounds like, but it worked for my apbt when my husband did it and i was skeptical myself. it's how the alpha would train one, and you are the pack leader.

     
    Actually that's NOT how the alpha would do it, typically an alpha doesn't play with puppies.  The dam, when playing with her puppies, would typically get up and walk away. 
     
    Pups don't learn bite inhibition from adults, typically, they learn it from their littermates.  A young pup doesn't know how hard they are biting, nor how sharp their teeth really are.  It takes alot of repetition, as was posted earlier, for the pup to learn "if I bite too hard the game ends." 
     
    If you bite back, the pup usually thinks that the game is escalating and they'll get into a more excitable state.
     
     
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    Yeah I don't think I'll be biting back.  With her long hair and it being shedding season I'll end up with mouthful of hair.
     
    She's getting so much better.  I did the yelping thing and then told her no nice, and if she licked my hand, smelled it, or just ignored it I praised her.  Now when she gets a little rough I just say no nice and she settles down.  She still sometimes nips fingers when we are playing tug, but not as bad as she used to.
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: allick06

    bite her back. i know what it sounds like, but it worked for my apbt when my husband did it and i was skeptical myself. it's how the alpha would train one, and you are the pack leader.


    Boy were you lucky you have a human-friendly breed... If you use those tactics on some dogs, they grow up to bite back.
    And, BTW, puppies do not generally bite each other back immediately when play gets rough.  One dog yelps, and play immediately stops, just as Xerxes posted.  They learn to inhibit their bites so they don't lose their playmates - dogs hate to be isolated.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Bite the dog back?  Oye......
    • Gold Top Dog
    Bite the dog back? Oye......

     
     
    That's what I was thinking[8|]