eating leash as teaching heal

    • Gold Top Dog

    eating leash as teaching heal

    Our obedience trainer suggests we hold the leash close to the dog's head when training heal.  Issue is, Jake is trying to eat the leash and clasp and jump and play with me while we walk!  Any suggestions? 
    • Gold Top Dog
    There is always Bitter Apple or any taste deterrent you could spray on the leash to stop the dog from biting on the leash, unfortunately some dogs Like the taste or just don't really care about it and bite anyway.

    Another idea would be to use a different type of leash. A light metal chain leash usually discourage the dog from biting the leash or you could add metal studs to a leather or cloth leash which should also discourage biting. Make the leash not feel good in the dogs mouth.
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: smilee1079

    Our obedience trainer suggests we hold the leash close to the dog's head when training heal.  Issue is, Jake is trying to eat the leash and clasp and jump and play with me while we walk!  Any suggestions? 


    Sure.  Don't yank him into a heel - clicker train it. [:D

    http://www.clickerlessons.com/heeling.htm
    http://www.doglinks.co.nz/problems/barry_place/CT_for_heel.htm
    http://www.clickertraining.tv/product.html?item=KPDLVD114R-02

    • Gold Top Dog
    Excellent links!  We worked on some of it a bit tonight and will continue tomorrow.  I am currently working on touch, he did sit and lay and stay (now we need to do all those more with distractions) and walking on leash and heal are the big priorities.
     
    Recall is a big issue also.  Inside with no distractions he is ok, but outside... yikes!
     
     
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: smilee1079
    Jake is trying to eat the leash and clasp and jump and play with me while we walk!


    Sounds like the dog is past his limit for focusing, or isn't being given cues to differentiate training time from play time. You said dog, not puppy, right?

    Do you do long sessions, or does he start in from the get go? How do you cue or correct him, is it consistent?
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: Ixas_girl

    ORIGINAL: smilee1079
    Jake is trying to eat the leash and clasp and jump and play with me while we walk!


    Sounds like the dog is past his limit for focusing, or isn't being given cues to differentiate training time from play time. You said dog, not puppy, right?

    Do you do long sessions, or does he start in from the get go? How do you cue or correct him, is it consistent?

     
    We adopted him 1 mth. ago and as far as we can guess, he just turned 1 this past weekend.  He is a puppy at heart.  He's a golden/collie mix, both breeds with long puppyhood :).  I am not sure what his past training has been.  He pulls a lot on the leash.
     
    This happens right from the get go but ya know what... it was in the backyard and he probably thought I came to play, not walk, so tomorrow we'll do it elsewhere.  I don't remember it being as big an issue when bf has walking him out front (I have not walked him much because he pulls... so I am trying to train it so I can walk him).
     
    When he is corrected, I usually use the word No.
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    Maybe could be wise also to use some Calming Signals ([linkhttp://neholistic.com/articles/0099.htm]http://neholistic.com/articles/0099.htm[/link]) . When Jake start jumping and bouncing and trying to bit the leash, then you just turn your back to him, ignore him and stop the walking. If he is too persistent you can step on the leash so he can't jump and get bored of trying. The moment he calm down, then you praise him calmly and keep walking, trying to make it fun to catch his attention but without over-excite him, maybe petting him under his chin. This equilibrium can be hard to achieve, but only requires practice.
     
    ETA: I would love I could  teach my dogs to "heal" when they are sick, it would save me lots of vets bills... Sorry, had to add it [8D]
    • Gold Top Dog
    I prefer to teach heel off-leash-- that eliminates the "leash biting" right there. You just reward, reward, reward the pup for being in heel position. Do very short sessions at first.
    • Gold Top Dog
    For corrections I NEVER use no when training: how many times have you gone, "NO NO NO ROVER! Not my expensive shoes from Italy!" ROVER NO! Not the blinds! No! Don't chew that""I said no, you can't have treat"

    It's the same reason why you don't say sit over two times...it starts to become white noise.  Everytime you mother says I'm going to beat youm and she doesn't, won't it fade behind you? I use a quick, sharp, AHHT! Or a quikc little leash correction. Not hard enough to be a "pop", but hard enough to get him to pay attention to me, that the leash is still attached.

    I have the same problem with the leash, but if I say "Out, now you leave it" Joy won't pick up the leash. BTW, out is my drop it word.
    • Gold Top Dog
    also one should never let the dog discover that there is a difference between "play" and "training'. If you do it right, the dog thinks everything is "play" and you'll get great attitude, drive, and focus. Dogs who like to bite leashes are, in my opinion, wonderful to own. You always have a way to reward the dog with you! You just need to offer the leash-biting as a reward for a few seconds of good heel work instead of letting the dog decide when to bite.