houndlove
Posted : 1/29/2007 9:18:43 AM
Playing this game was a huge aha moment for me regarding the difference between a completely clicker-trained dog and one who had been at one time traditionally trained. I'd already been clicker-training for many months with Marlowe, who came to me with no prior training that I could discern. He was really a blank slate in that regard. But with Conrad I hadn't done much more than prime the clicker with him and introduce him to the concept of the marker and reinforcement. Conrad I had trained pretty traditionally with collar corrections and the occasional alpha-roll and scruff. So I thought I'd try this game with both dogs (seperately) to see if there was a difference.
And boy was there ever. I just wanted to cry after Conrad's session. I felt extreme guilt, which I know is silly because I didn't know any better when I trained him originally, but I still felt guilty. Faced with the situation of the box, me, the clicker and a bowl of treats, he pretty much instantly shut down and gave up. The farthest I could get with him was a very tentative touch of his nose to the box but it was like pulling teeth. He waited and waited for me to tell him what to do and when I didn't, he just defaulted to a down-stay and wouldn't move a muscle. I danced around, tried to get him up and interested, tossed a treat into the box and still he just stared, getting more and more stressed out. I ended the session because he was getting really freaked out by the whole thing.
When I brought Marlowe in it was like night and day. I'd never free-shaped with Marlowe before so he didn't have an advantage in that regard. All our previous clicker work had been with luring. But I had him pushing the box around the room with his nose in about a minute and a half, then getting into and out of the box, then putting one foot in the box.
To me that cemented my commitment to a new way of training with both dogs. I made a much bigger effort to get Conrad "caught up" and completely crossed over to the clicker. It took several months of very patient, gentle work with him to get him to see the clicker as fun and interesting rather than stressful and scary. I'm happy to report that Conrad is now pretty much over the hump and I am now able to shape with him easily.