Has anyone heard of Ian Dunbar?

That helps, but in the same turn what you might feel is funny, others might feel offensive.
 
I've created a new area of the forum, it is an introduction area, maybe you would be better received if you went there and posted a little about yourself, experience and knowledge. I'm sure it would give everyone a better understanding of "where you're coming from"

I've been teaching dog training for 30 years - I've been to Ian Dunbar's seminars, Michael Fox's seminars, Jack Godsill's seminars and Bernie Brown's seminars to name a few - I admire all of them for their dedication to the sport of training and showing dogs.  I have shown in obedience and agility (no corrections at all).  And, I admire Cesar for his common sense approach to working with dogs.  Exercise first, training and then affection.  He's a lucky man to be in the right place at the right time and be "discovered".  Good for him!  Are there instructors/behaviorists out there who are not as lucky, but do a great job - yes, of course.  How often does Cesar do a "alpha roll over" - not very often as far as I can see - and usually all he does is lay a dog on his side - if it is totally out of control - I had been advised by an American Bulldog breeder to do that with a client's willful/aggressive dog.
 
Pick and choose what you like from the many wonderful experts out there - but don't condemn a common sense trainer - if you take a good look at this site under aggressive dogs - there are far too many problems with biting dogs these days - and most of these folks have never made a physical correction on the dog!  This escalating bite problem tells me something is wrong with how we are handling dogs.  Never saying NO is not the answer.
 
Dianeg

I find that a large part of the problem of aggression and biting dogs has to do with too much physical punishment and not enough rewarding the dog when he's right.  Or, with lack of consistency or any kind of training instruction.  70-75% of the dogs that bite are unneutered males - why aren't we advocating that as a quick fix? (no pun intended).