5 weeks old poodle

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    5 weeks old poodle

    hello,i just bought a poddle boy a few days ago, since he's a baby, i understand the part about he will do number 1 and 2 just about anywhere, i never punish him cause i afraid it is too early for him,but i feel like i should do something about it right away until it's too late, does anyone know if there's something i can do about it?
    i mean, he even pee on my bed at night even i try to take him outside to do his business once a while already.......but i still love him to death...
    so please help
    • Gold Top Dog
    He's five weeks old, and WAY too young to leave his mom. Toy breeds shouldn't leave their moms til at LEAST 8 weeks, preferably 10+ weeks old.

    His bladder is tiny. He will not *begin* to have control over where he goes until he is 8 weeks old.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Someone sold you a poodle puppy at five weeks of age?  SHAME ON THEM.  What type of poodle, toy, mini or standard?  How much does it presently weigh?

    I have owned toys and minis, I presently own a toy poodle.  Toy poodles in particular should not leave their breeder until they are over 10 weeks and over 3 pounds.  My toy poodle, Misty, came to me when she was 14 weeks and 3 pounds. 

    All that said, you've got the dog and you need to know what to do.  This dog will not be ready to housetrain until it is over 12 weeks old.  If it is a toy poodle, even older.  Until then, keep it in a small area with newspapers and a cozy bed. If it is a crate, it needs to be big enough to have a definite bedding area and a newspaper area.   A gated in area in the kitchen will do, make sure there are no drafts and that the area is not too cool from air conditioning or open windows. 

    Nutrition--dogs this young can be prone to hypoglycemia if not fed small meals frequently.  Keep very close track of how much the dog eats in a day and make sure it is getting enough nutrition. 

    Do not take this dog outside, do not take it anywhere.  It's immune system is not ready for the outdoor world, and it has not yet received the immunizations necessary to keep it healthy. 

    Also, it probably will need a couple more wormings, you will need to talk to your vet about that. 

    As for him peeing on your bed at night, sure, he's going to do that, he's just too young to be away from his mom.  If he was still with his litter, his mom would be cleaning up after him.  Now, he is in your pack, and you must take care of it.  Have a small playpen or large crate in your room for him to sleep in, have one side soft blankets and the other newspapers.  Even puppies this young will avoid peeing or pooping on their bedding. 

    Lastly, Post a Picture of the wee one. 
    • Gold Top Dog
    Panfia, it just occurred to me that you recently had a terrible experience with a poodle pup who died at 4 months of age.  That was a terrible thing and I'm sorry you had to go through that. 

    Where are you getting these poodles from?  The first one was not healthy, and this one was sold to you at too young an age. 
    • Bronze
    I hope you get on okay with this new poodle baby.
     
    I second everything Angelamarie said, it's excellent and caring advise IMO.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Did you get this puppy from the same breeder who sold you the sick baby? If so I think you should take this boy back and demand that your money be returned. He is way too young to have left the litter, im not saying he will die because of it but you will end up having a 'weird' dog. Dogs that are taken that young from mom almost always have training/socialization problems, simply because they do not know how to be dogs.
     
    As for the potty training you will not be able to do much until he is 9-10 weeks old and even then it will be very difficult. This puppy will pee or poop whenever he feels the need, even if it is on your bed, on the couch, maybe outside or on the floo. They simply cannot hold it.
     
    I wonder why some "breeders" give up their pups so young? Dont they know that at 5 weeks the fun is just starting?
    • Gold Top Dog
    I second everybody else's advice, but Bunni does litter train her poodles starting 6 wks I don't know how to do it, but that would eliminate you taking that pup out. You can go to her website and see some videos and then you can email her I am going to send this thread to her too.
    [linkhttp://www.brandoandtrixiethepapillions.com]www.brandoandtrixiethepapillions.com[/link]
    go to the training section.
    This is on my website it's an easy way to train, but not yet your pup is too young.
    Bunni is at [linkhttp://www.poodlejunction.com]www.poodlejunction.com[/link]
    • Gold Top Dog
    This pup is not only too young to leave its dam, it's too young to leave its littermates.  Puppies learn things like how to inhibit their bite from playing with the other pups in the litter - this dog will not learn some valuable lessons because he was separated too soon.
    I suspect you may be outside the US, since many of our states have laws against selling pups younger than 8 weeks.  I think the advice you have gotten here is good, and I wish you the best, but think you are headed for trouble.
    You can buy this book online at [linkhttp://www.dogsbestfriendtraining.com]www.dogsbestfriendtraining.com[/link]:
    "Way to Go - How to Housetrain a Dog of Any Age"
    • Gold Top Dog
    You most certainly can start training this pup. I start mine at 4 weeks and if I start them later they don't catch on nearly as fast. I use a litter box containing pine pellet litter or newspaper pellet litter. (You cannot use clay litter). I keep them in a 4 foot square pen at this age or in a playpen. They are only awake for about 25 minutes at a time at this age so you can be with them every minute that they are awake and you are home. I put them in a closed crate inside the pen so I can hear them when they wake up. The second they wake up I sit at the edge of the pen and put each one in the box until it pees. The second it does I give him a lick of baby food chicken off my finger. They are too young for any other treats. Usually this will make a great impression on them because they have not had any treats before. If you do this every time he wakes up you will easily have him trained to use the box in the pen.  You will have to really watch him closely to get him used to using a box outside of the pen when he is a little older (6 - 8 weeks). Use the same strategy as above but have the litter box outside of the pen where you will keep it permanently (or till he's old enough to go outside.) You would do better to have him sleep in a crate at night with a litter box in the crate. (If a standard box won't fit use a tin foil baking pan that will) He will automatically use the box at night as long as the crate is not too big. I rarely have pee or poop to clean up in the pen or playpen after the pups are about  5 weeks old. I've had puppies who never had an accident after 6 or 7 weeks and you can see actual video of this on my web site (since so many people don't believe they can be trained this young). It's at [linkhttp://www.poodlejunction.com]www.poodlejunction.com[/link] Look for the Videos link in the Table of Contents.  This pup definitely needs to learn how to get along with other dogs since he will not learn from his mom and litter mates. If I were you I'd find a dog who has just finished having all his shots and bring him to play with your dog. It's very important. Even if you never plan to have him around other dogs you need to do this so you don't end up with a neurotic dog.  Also, play wrestle and tug kinds of games with your pup and be as rough as he'll be (considering his size and age).  At this age he'll bite at you a lot. When he does let out a really good squeal as if he hurt you. This is what puppies do with each other to teach each other how hard they can bite when they play.  Get a bottle of Karo syrup and keep it on hand. If the pup gets lethargic or keels over, get some of this into his mouth and then rush to the vet. In case of a hypoglycemic attack this could save his life.  This pup probably still needs to eat canned food or softened kibble. He may be just starting to eat standard kibble. Leave some of that out for him all the time and feed him additional soft food at meal times.  This little pup should not be left alone. If you can get away with taking him to work with you, you should. Otherwise find someone he can stay with during the day.  I disagree that all toy puppies should stay with the breeder until they are 10 weeks old. I do send some of mine at that age but I consider 8 weeks to be the perfect age (then again, my pups are far more socialized than most pups this age). Aside from the fact that around 9 weeks they really need to be watched to keep them using a litter box (and I can't watch them all closely enough) I think 8 weeks is just right. They still have plenty of socialization time in their new home and I think that's very important. I'm not saying that everyone should do this, only that it can work out very well and does for my pups. Most of my puppy parents tell me they have the most perfect puppy in the world. (And of course, they all do.) The breeder who gave you this dog should not be allowed to breed dogs. Letting a puppy go at 5 weeks is completely irresponsible and ignorant.  Good luck.
    • Gold Top Dog
    BUNNI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    • Gold Top Dog
    Hi Jen. Did you think I died or got a life or something? [;)]
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    Well, I was starting to wonder, LOL.

    "Hmm... maybe Bunni found somebody more FUN than us!"[:)]

    I miss all of those adorable Poodles!
    • Gold Top Dog
    Hey, Bunni, where you been? 

    When I said you can't train a toy poodle until 12 weeks, I should have added "unless you have Bunni to teach you." 
    • Gold Top Dog
    Anglemarie, Thanks. I'd like to take credit for being a great trainer, but I'm really not. I've just come to realize what the pups are capable of and I think our expectations have an awful lot to do with what they learn. This is especially true when we believe that they are too young (or small or whatever) to do something and many books have told us than they can't be trained this young.
     
    I have a book on housebreaking that says you can't start until they are 16 weeks old. Rediculous!
     
    My new baby (below) is 15 weeks old. She uses the litter box sometimes and sometimes goes outside. She flies through the doggie door with all the big ones. (She just hit 3 pounds today) I don't think she's had any accidents lately but I can't swear to it because her sister isn't nearly as well housebroken and I find her accidents (no I don't watch them every minute - I have 13 dogs) but I also see her doing it sometimes and I haven't seen Bridget having an accident in weeks. (I do think though that she's an exceptional puppy, in many ways.)
     
    Both she and her littermates learned to sit at 6 weeks (that's standard for my pups - and easy to train) and we'd have "morning meeting" where all of the pups would sit on the floor in front of me and nicely await their treats. (Unfortunately my video software is not working) It was adorable.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Hmm, no picture. I'll try again.