Raising a pet pup the working dog way (long)

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    Raising a pet pup the working dog way (long)

    I have been a trainer for about 10 years and a behaviorist for a little over 2.  Behaviorally I specialize in aggression & separation anxiety, and training wise my main focus is working dogs (specifically guard & patrol...PSA style).  
     
    I am trying to put together a training program for new puppy owners that really doesn't allow for the oppotunity to screrw up. In my experience the way we raise our working ;puppies could apply to all dogs.  The pups end up confident, well adjusted, eager to please, just in general a very happy dogs.  
     
    I see so many people screw up there dogs by scolding them, yelling at them, redirecting poorly, having very poor timing, misunderstanding basic training explanations, changing methods too quickly, not putting in the time, having to high of expectations, and so on....I have done all of the above at one time or another.
     
    Here is the way we train our working puppies (more specifically ;puppies that will be MY working dogs).  The keys to the program are bonding with the dog, exposing him to as many environments as possible, and being in clear control of that environment at all times.  This is how your puppy learns to trust you implicitly.
     
    When the pup arrives to our home the very first thing we do is focus on crate training.  It is important for EVERY puppy to have a den in which he or she can feel safe and comfortable.  It is equally as important that you have a place to put your puppy where he or she can be trusted from a very young age.  For the first 3 days the pup is placed in the crate and the only time he comes out is to eliminate.  This maybe every other hour, but he should only come out to eliminate.  He should eat in the crate, drink in the crate, sleep in the crate, and play with his two toys in the crate.  Ignore any whining, whimpering, and barking.  9 out of 10 puppies will be completely crate trained by hour 72.  Now you have established a safe place for the pup that he enjoys and can be trusted. (People work really hard to break this rule because the puppy is so new and novel.  If you follow through with this exactly you will be pleased with the results.)
     
    The hard part is over and the fun begins.  The rules of the working puppy are as follows.  She is in her crate, unless you are doing something specifically with her, from now on.  Your goal is to bring out as much of the dogs natural personality as possible.
     
    What does this mean?
     
    Working dogs are bred specifically to offer the trainer/handler a pup with the potential for certain skills and certain personality.  As trainers our job from day one is to help that dog reach his potential.  That should be your goal with your puppy as well.  First, we help the pup get on track to reach his potential (first 8 months) then we start shaping that potential to meet our needs.
     
    Here#%92s our routine:
     
    In the morning we wake up together.  His crate is at the foot of my bed and has been since day one.  He comes out of his crate and stands in front of me patiently while I put on his collar and leash.  He comes with me while I eliminate and then I go with him while he eliminates.  We come back into the house and he goes back into his crate to get his first food/water of the day.  He eats quickly (as he only gets 20 minutes or his food disappears). After he has digested for about 20-40 minutes (depending on how busy I am) we head back outside and allow him to eliminate again (on leash…you will notice a theme with the leash).  After he goes, we go on a 10-15 minute sprint around the yard.  We then play tug for 10 minutes, and finally we throw a ball or Kong around.  My favorite toy is the tennis ball on a string.  Every time he gets close to it the ball magically jumps away from him. After 45-60 minutes of play we head back inside to the crate.
    He gets access to water again, and then it is time for a nap. He rests until it#%92s time to go out for elimination. 
     
    The pup goes back and forth from the crate to the elimination area all day until it is time for his next activity.  In the early evening we take a trip to somewhere new every single day. Before we leave we have 30 minutes of chase, tug, and ball play and then we head out.  It maybe to the store, gas station, downtown, the country, suburbs, train station, construction site, Dog Park, dog daycare, play ground, the lake, river, woods, neighbors house, basically anywhere I can come up with.  All of the places offer different scents, sounds and sights.  The entire time the puppy is on leash with me.
     
    We head back home for another hour of chase, ball, & tug, and then it#%92s back to the crate for dinner/water break.  Again he gets 20 minutes to eat, 20-40 minutes to digest, and then another chance to eliminate.  The pup goes back and forth from the crate to the elimination area until about 30 minutes before bed.  At this time I let the puppy out on leash, and we sit on the floor together and relax.  I brace him in my arms until he relaxes and that is how we finish each day.  Once he is calm he goes back into the crate for the night. 
     
    This is how my pups and I spend everyday for the first 8 months of their little lives.  We don#%92t do any obedience, or specific training, all we do is play and introduce the pup to new things.  Every working dog I raised this way has ended up fantastic dog, free from behavior problems and obedience issues. 
     
    People always ask “what do you do when the pup gets to rough during playtime...” we end the game, go back to the crate, and try again 10 minutes later.  “What about when he jumps up on you…” we end the game, go back to the crate, and try again 10 minutes later. “What about when he is acting up in one of these new places…” we end the game, go back to the crate, and try again 10 minutes later.  You mean you take the crate with you?  Yep…everywhere I take the dog, I take the crate. It may not be with me on a walk, but it is never too far away. 
     
    The first 8 months of the dog#%92s life are all about play and being a puppy.  It#%92s really a pretty sweet deal for you and the dog.  You develop a great relationship, solid bond, and a well adjusted pup. 
     
    I have recently finished this process with a group of 20 clients that aggreed to do their best to follow through, and each dog has done exceptionally well.  The group consisted of a Basset, Pug, Mutlipoo, Puggle, Mini Schanuzer, Doberman, Min Pin, Westie, Donovan Pinshcer, and 10 other various breeds (some were mixes).  The starting age of the puppies was between 8-10 weeks.  Next week will be the 6 month mark of the experiment and I couldn't be happier. 

     
    We are about to start our second round of this experiment  with a few minor adjustments to the program.  If anyone is interested in participating let me know.  We offer 1 year of free internet and phone consults, plus free videos, and other helpful items for those participating.
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    Mic, that sounds awesome.  If I were in the market for a pup I'd take you up on that offer.
     
    A couple of questions though:  Is this puppy rearing designed specifically towards working dogs, has this method been tested on sighthounds as well?
     
    What to do on weekend trips?  I say this because during the summer months I attend dog shows, usually out of state.
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    The idea behind the ;program is that this program works with ALL puppies (stilll to be determined) working breeds or any other.  the only sighthound that this has been attempted on (via our little experiment) was a whippet.  They have had great success.  I think they did so well because they are SO consistent.
     
    As far as trips go, it takes a little extra effort.  Just take the crate along and try to keep as close to the schedule as possible.  If the dog can't go then I hire someone to meet their needs. 
     
     
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    Other questions I've come up with:  what about socialization with strangers, with other dogs or different situations?  Or is this not even a worry until the pup is 8 months old?
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    In the early evening we take a trip to somewhere new every single day..... It maybe to the store, gas station, downtown, the country, suburbs, train station, construction site, Dog Park, dog daycare, play ground, the lake, river, woods, neighbors house, basically anywhere I can come up with. All of the places offer different scents, sounds and sights. The entire time the puppy is on leash with me.

     
    This was taken from explanation above....
     
    Socialization is absolutely key to this being effective. When we have our daily outings the dogs meet loads of people and other dogs, but always on leash with me.
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    This sounds like an excellent program to me, but there are some very anti-crate people on this board that I just wanted to warn you about....!!!   [&:]   [8D]
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    I appreciate the warning.  [sm=crazy.gif]
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    This sounds like an excellent plan and I like how you've made it very detailed and concise. I guess the only downside for many of us is that we work and aren't home everyday for 8 months straight, which is unfortunate because it would make life alot easier!!
     
    Anyway, back to your plan, I have a few questions. I believe we will be getting a puppy several years down the road so this is very helpful:
     
    -Why no playing or fun outside the crate for the first three days?
    - Do you feel socializing is important enough to start it immediately, even before vaccinations are complete? I know many people do feel that socializing is worth the risk.
    - I'm just wondering, does not doing any obedience for the first 8 months not make it more difficult to do later? Is there harm in teaching a few commands earlier on?
     
    Anyway great advice!
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    People always ask “what do you do when the pup gets to rough during playtime...” we end the game, go back to the crate, and try again 10 minutes later. “What about when he jumps up on you…” we end the game, go back to the crate, and try again 10 minutes later.

    Would pups see crate as a punishment?
    Why do you think time-outs work?
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    the only downside for many of us is that we work and aren't home everyday for 8 months straight, which is unfortunate because it would make life alot easier

     
    I also travel quite a bit so I pay someone to keep up the schedule...either a boarding facility or a pet sitter.
     
    Why no playing or fun outside the crate for the first three days? 

     
    I want to establish the crate as the most important space to the puppy right of the bat. Also, it prevents errors on the owners part in regards to crate training.
     
    Do you feel socializing is important enough to start it immediately, even before vaccinations are complete? I know many people do feel that socializing is worth the risk.

     
    YES. We start socializing on day 4 of being in our facility.  If proper vaccine protocol is followed, the puppy is protected. So, in reality there is no danger.
     
    I'm just wondering, does not doing any obedience for the first 8 months not make it more difficult to do later?

     
    No it doesn't make it more difficult.  The will be far more obediant than most others, just not in the traditional command based way that everyone thinks of.  Because the schedule is so particluar, and the environment is carefully controlled you will have a remarkably well behaved dogs by month 8.  All we do is add commands at month 8. 
     
    Is there harm in teaching a few commands earlier on?

     
    With working dogs there is harm, but for a pet probably not.  I think most people will find adding the commands early to be unecessary. 

    Would pups see crate as a punishment?


    No, because the crate is not punishment.  When I take the pup to the crate I have a great attitude about it.  The crate is only punishment if you punish him with crate.  What I mean by that is if you are angry, aggression, abrupt, noisy, anxious etc. when you put him in the crate then it is a punishment.  If you are calm, laid back, cheerful, etc. it is just another place to be.
     
    Why do you think time-outs work?

     
    The only reason I use timeouts is to seperate the dog from the situation.  Dogs are very resourceful.  When they want something bad enough they change their behavior to get it.  Each time the dog comes back to the situation he will find a new approach to determine what allows him to stay in the situation. 
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    quote:

    Is there harm in teaching a few commands earlier on?

    With working dogs there is harm, but for a pet probably not.


    By working dog, do you mean a dog that came from a working line?
    I own a working dog, then. And I started taking him to puppy classes early and teaching obedience commands... Please, in detail, how can it be harmful? And why? [8|]
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    I guess the only downside for many of us is that we work and aren't home everyday for 8 months straight, which is unfortunate because it would make life alot easier!!


    Yes, I agree [&o]  Too bad I can't afford to pay anyone either!
     
    I own 2 herding dogs, as you can probably tell, and I would consider them working types for sure!!
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    ORIGINAL: TinaK
    By working dog, do you mean a dog that came from a working line?...

     
    I believe Mic means dogs with a job (police K9's, Military Working Dogs, etc), not dogs from the working group that are pets. 
     
     
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    By working dog, do you mean a dog that came from a working line?

     
    That is an excellent question.  I apologize for the lack of clarity.  By working dog I do mean a dog from working lines, but I also mean a dog who's work is dependent on manipulating his drives.  Since almost all K9 based work starts with prey drive we a VERY careful not to do anything to decrease it.  Even doing strictly PR training too early can effect the amount of drive a puppy demonstrates so we do no obedience with the dogs for 8 months.  People tend to rush this process starting obedience way to young with working dogs (dogs that are intended for actual work).
     
    The idea behind the experiment that we are doing is to determine if applying this philosophy to pet dogs rewards us with the same kind of results we get from our working dogs in regards to personality and temperament. 
     
    Obviously some of the results are gentically based, but the good majority of them are based on the dogs environment.  I want to see these pet pups develop the same kind of decision making skills, confidence, exuberance, and personality that our working dogs achieve.
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    we work and aren't home everyday for 8 months straight

     
    What are you doing with your dog when you aren't home?