Episode with resource guarding greyhound

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    If you handle this situation correctly, the dog never needs to use his teeth and you don't need a weapon, or a barrier. But, if you intend to force the dog's hand, then you do.

     
    Can you explain in detail how exactly you would have approached the owner's and this dog?  I"m hearing Lori saying she was in this exact situation with Willow and the "trade" didn't work for them.  I do not think all methods work for all dogs and at some point you have to have a "plan B".  So, what is the "correct" way for this to be handled?? 
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    ORIGINAL: TinaK

    spiritdogs, I haven't seen this episode, but I don't suppose he stood there waiving it above his head, dancing around like a witch. [:D][:D]
    I just don't think there is anything inherently frightening about a broom in the eyes of a dog - it's not any scarier than having a cactus plant in your hands or huge sun glasses... They're all weird-shaped objects to them that have no meaning until they learn to associate them with good stuff or bad stuff. (If "threatening" was what I wanted I'd use a vacuum or an umbrella, those seems to be more threatening to some dogs...)

     
    Bingo!!! Thanks Tina, i explained the same before a few posts ago but it seems that my example was too hard to understand [;)]
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    ORIGINAL: TinaK

    If you aren't planning to threaten the dog, then why do you need a broom, or any other object?

    spiritdogs, I haven't seen this episode, but I don't suppose he stood there waiving it above his head, dancing around like a witch. [:D][:D]
    I just don't think there is anything inherently frightening about a broom in the eyes of a dog - it's not any scarier than having a cactus plant in your hands or huge sun glasses... They're all weird-shaped objects to them that have no meaning until they learn to associate them with good stuff or bad stuff. (If "threatening" was what I wanted I'd use a vacuum or an umbrella, those seems to be more threatening to some dogs...)
    I saw an episode where a farm dog would not let anyone approach the house. Guests were instructed by CM to use a tennis racket to block and go inside...
    I think a broom (or a tennis racket) is used to train *a human* to be more confident. It's used as a shield to block a potential bite. The shield gives you confidence, confidence makes you calm, and when you are calm good things happen... so it's spirals the success...


    Yep, saw the episode with the Aussie.  I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.  I thought that one was quite ridiculous.  I had visions of the family going broke when they have parties, having to equip all of the guests with  brand new Dunlops or Yonex's.
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    ORIGINAL: espencer

    ORIGINAL: spiritdogs

    Did it ever occur to anyone that CM might never have tried the trade protocol, and that he might even be interested in learning about it?



    No he hasnt because pack leaders dont "trade" [;)]


    This one does. [:D
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    ORIGINAL: Mastiff

    If you handle this situation correctly, the dog never needs to use his teeth and you don't need a weapon, or a barrier. But, if you intend to force the dog's hand, then you do.


    Can you explain in detail how exactly you would have approached the owner's and this dog?  I"m hearing Lori saying she was in this exact situation with Willow and the "trade" didn't work for them.  I do not think all methods work for all dogs and at some point you have to have a "plan B".  So, what is the "correct" way for this to be handled?? 


    If trade doesn't work, it's usually because you are trying to trade an item that the dog doesn't consider as high in value as the thing that he currently has.  You really can't expect a dog to give you his pig ear in exchange for a Cheerio.  To be successful, you must know what your dog considers to be his best reinforcers.  With Sequoyah, it isn't food, it's her frisbee.  With Maska, it's only food.  With Sioux, it  doesn't matter because she isn't the least bit guardy about anything.  Every dog is different.  Some dogs will gladly trade a bone for liverwurst, but turn their noses up at chicken.  Some dogs are cheese dogs.  Others won't even look at you if you have cheese to offer.
    If you have a particularly guardy dog, the place to start is with hand feeding the dog all its meals.  That way, the dog begins to learn that the human controls the resources.  Critical bit of understanding for dogs to have. 
    Sometimes, if a dog likes to play with tennis balls, you can teach the "drop" by throwing a second tennis ball as the dog brings the first one back.  So, each time, he is hearing "drop" as he does just that - and goes for the second ball.