What can you contribute?

Why thank you for your kind words and encouragement to post. I really appreciate it.

No problem... just like you I have no training experience...i am just a girl trying to do the best she can with the dogs she adores... I also feel like I have FAR more to "take" than give in this thread![]

ORIGINAL: Xerxes

Was the dog newly adopted?

No, she had the dog sinse a pup.

It seems to me kind of strange that DA would rear up in a 10yr old all of a sudden.

Not at all, depending on how a dog is raised, and what happens in their daily life, almost *any* breed can become aggressive at any age. It happens more than one would think.

Given the circumstances I can understand generalized aggression.  But if the dog had been theirs all along, especially given the breed history, one would expect the DA to materialize at a much earlier stage.

Raised correctly, I wouldn't expect any DA because I don't believe dogs are born naturally DA. I'm simply aware that almost any dog can have DA, powerful dogs just need to be well managed.

ORIGINAL: Awsomedog

ORIGINAL: Xerxes

Was the dog newly adopted?

No, she had the dog sinse a pup.

It seems to me kind of strange that DA would rear up in a 10yr old all of a sudden.

Not at all, depending on how a dog is raised, and what happens in their daily life, almost *any* breed can become aggressive at any age. It happens more than one would think.

Given the circumstances I can understand generalized aggression. But if the dog had been theirs all along, especially given the breed history, one would expect the DA to materialize at a much earlier stage.

Raised correctly, I wouldn't expect any DA because I don't believe dogs are born naturally DA. I'm simply aware that almost any dog can have DA, powerful dogs just need to be well managed.

awsomedog,
Didn't you say the dog was three legged?
Was that a new injury? If so, could that have contributed to the dog's behavior?

and by behavior, I mean the newly (within a year) DA issues the dog was experiencing.

Raised correctly, I wouldn't expect any DA because I don't believe dogs are born naturally DA. I'm simply aware that almost any dog can have DA, powerful dogs just need to be well managed
 

 
But as you yourself stated, this dog was not raised correctly.  

ORIGINAL: chewbecca


awsomedog,
Didn't you say the dog was three legged?
Was that a new injury? If so, could that have contributed to the dog's behavior?

The leg was lost when the dog was a pup, so it was not the problem.

ORIGINAL: Xerxes


But as you yourself stated, this dog was not raised correctly.  

This has been my ***point*** all along.

So what techniques did you use to dispell the DA?  How did you teach the owners to handle the dog?

I changed all those things.

 
This helps re-establish leadership with the human, right?
 

Explained why her dog was being aggressive.

 
And why was her dog being aggressive?  I think that#%92s what we are eager to understand.
 

 I used my dog (and a few of her neighbors lol) to show her how to stop the aggression.

 
What do you show them?  How to desensitize by using distance?  What was your method?  What did you show them to do?
 
There are a lot of people on this board who have dog#%92s with DA, this information could be real helpful.

I'll be picking up my favorite "tri-clops" in a couple of hours. His owner headed out to Hawaii last night. The dog is at the vet getting an absess drained. What I contribute to this situation is owner relief that someone she trusts is there to look after her dog.

He is missing his right back leg due to an encounter with a truck at age three. He is now eight. He had issues with killing small animals in the past.

His primary issue right now is with a poorly designed cart which I will be taking a hacksaw to and redesigning while the owner is out of town.

You contribute where you can. Sometimes you just do small things which will make life a little more livable and comfortable for one dog. []

ORIGINAL: luvmyswissy

I changed all those things.

This helps re-establish leadership with the human, right?

Yes.

Explained why her dog was being aggressive.

And why was her dog being aggressive?  I think that's what we are eager to understand.

Because the dog was being spoiled (a life not natural to a dog). The dog was not having it's needs as a dog met(a life not natural to a dog). There was no leadership(a life not natural to a dog). The owner had no clue how to give a correction that was fair, and that the dog understood(a life not natural to a dog).

 I used my dog (and a few of her neighbors lol) to show her how to stop the aggression.

What do you show them?  How to desensitize by using distance?  What was your method?  What did you show them to do?

LOL I'm sorry, but it's hard enough for people to even watch someone do what I do and understand it, without bashing the methods or techniques I use, as well as my philosophy. Cesar gets bashed enough here for what he does, I'm not going down that road. And! people even gripe that he shouldn't be showing what he does on TV because *some* people will try it on their own. And then! Even the fact that he has a disclaimer, isn't good enough, and you want me to go into detail on how I helped a DA Chow? LOL I'm not stupid or crazy. But I will say this, I do not use  "desensitize by using distance", I use my dog right next to the owners dog, and  then others dogs who are calm are used, then  I use excited dogs. The owner is taught what they need to change, how to become a leader, and how to show the dog what behavior will and will not be *tolerated*. Dogs who are brought into balance and trust their human pack leaders don't do things they know are against the wishes of the pack leader and infact will not even feel the need to behave in such a way. It is that easy when you work with dogs on their level, which! they understand, not on the human level that most humans think they should understand.

There are a lot of people on this board who have dog's with DA, this information could be real helpful.

And be clompletely honest, no underline or hidden meanings, not trying to be smart here, but I'll say what I always say. When one is dealing with aggression of any kind in their dog, they should hire a professional to help them. That's it and I've got to run.

LOL I'm sorry, but it's hard enough for people to even watch someone do what I do and understand it, without bashing the methods or techniques I use, as well as my philosophy.

 
But this thread is a thread asking what you'd like to contribute.  I haven't seen a judgemental post yet.  If you'd just rather not say, publicly, what you'd do I can understand.  But if that's the case then why bring up that particular challenge?  Certainly in your experience of training you've had a challenge or two that don't require methods that cannot be divulged. 
 
 

ORIGINAL: Awsomedog

And be clompletely honest, no underline or hidden meanings, not trying to be smart here, but I'll say what I always say. When one is dealing with aggression of any kind in their dog, they should hire a professional to help them. That's it and I've got to run.

 
Yes, some things have to be shown in person due to a lot of variables and an open board is not designed for specific "how to" information.
 
Otherwise, there would be no need for canine professionals.
 
Thank you for sharing the portions of the consultation which were "safe" to put on an open board.
 
I got a good grasp of what you do, and what you choose not to use in these situations. It seems you work with a lot of extreme aggression cases.
 
 

  Xerxes

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ORIGINAL: Angelique

ORIGINAL: Awsomedog

And be clompletely honest, no underline or hidden meanings, not trying to be smart here, but I'll say what I always say. When one is dealing with aggression of any kind in their dog, they should hire a professional to help them. That's it and I've got to run.

Yes, some things have to be shown in person due to a lot of variables and an open board is not designed for specific "how to" information.

Otherwise, there would be no need for canine professionals.

Thank you for sharing the portions of the consultation which were "safe" to put on an open board.

I got a good grasp of what you do, and what you choose not to use in these situations. It seems you work with a lot of extreme aggression cases.

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And yes I do. Infact I just heard from a elderly couple who's dog was aggressive and would bite even them and draw blood. It's been six months now and they said she's doing great, she's being the dog they always wanted. this was a case I was very concerned about. I can't begin to discribe how I'm feeling right now. So I will exit here on that note.
Peace