Supernanny and the Dog Whisperer!

I dont think is the same voice, i can tell by the accent since i'm Mexican

It's probably not, BUT, if I wanted to make fun of mysef in that direction the accent would be the first thing I would OVERLY exagerate. By the way, I'm mexican too, I lived 10 years in Mexico city and another 6 or so in Cuernavaca before moving to Houston. Where are you from?

Supernanny uses TONS of PR techniques.

Yup! That's another reason I love that show. After a while, the usual rewards get "boring" and Supernanny always has great ideas for rewards. The kids are DYING to go bowling - so I think that's going to be the next one.

I think kids are easier because you really can just crouch down, put on a sad face, and say, "You really disappointed me - I would like an apology!" And it works.

LOL! That actually works better on our dog, Lucy than on my youngest son [] Lucy will immediately cease and desist any activity if you just say "Ohhh, Lucy" with a really disappointed tone. My son will cock his head and start thinking up an opening argument regarding why it is OK for him to be doing this particular thing even though he was just told not to. He NEVER wins the argument, but that never stops him from trying. I swear the kid is going to grow up to be a criminal defense attorney. (Hopefully before he NEEDS a criminal defense attorney!) []

ORIGINAL: jenhuedepohl



My son will cock his head and start thinking up an opening argument regarding why it is OK for him to be doing this particular thing even though he was just told not to. He NEVER wins the argument, but that never stops him from trying. I swear the kid is going to grow up to be a criminal defense attorney. (Hopefully before he NEEDS a criminal defense attorney!) []

My must keep your son and my oldest daughter apart, or it sounds like it could be "Natural Born Killers" all over again!

ORIGINAL: houndlove

I

want to see supernanny use clickers and treats for one entire episode, instead of using her more "social" leadership and the setting of boundaries approach. Only reward good behavior with goodies, and ignore the bad.

Oh yeah because that's totally how I train my dogs. No boundaries, I just hand out treats and ignore everything bad my dogs do!

I'm going to edit the rest because while I'm telling the truth and speaking form the heart I know it would be considered rude and uncalledfor and apparently only certain people are allowed to be rude with impunity in this particular area of the forum. So, I'm self-censoring.

 
Thank you.
 
It was really getting creepy..
 
What is this weird thing that you have for following me around and taking everything I write personally?
 
This is at least the forth time you have done this.
 
I wasn't talking about you. My posts aren't about you. My signature line is not about you. Train your dogs as you see fit and do what works for you. You seem to be doing just fine.
 
Please do not talk to me anymore. Your comments are not welcome.
 
 
 
 
 
 

ORIGINAL: houndlove

I

want to see supernanny use clickers and treats for one entire episode, instead of using her more "social" leadership and the setting of boundaries approach. Only reward good behavior with goodies, and ignore the bad.

Oh yeah because that's totally how I train my dogs. No boundaries, I just hand out treats and ignore everything bad my dogs do!

I'm going to edit the rest because while I'm telling the truth and speaking form the heart I know it would be considered rude and uncalledfor and apparently only certain people are allowed to be rude with impunity in this particular area of the forum. So, I'm self-censoring.

YIKES!!

ORIGINAL: TinaK


CM doesn't believe time outs work for dogs though!

One reason some of us who work with dogs don't believe in time outs. First off dogs thenself don't use it. But the bigger reason is, timeout was being used so children put in it, could ponder over what they did wrong. Dogs don't do this. All they know 3 seconds after you've left them or kenneled them is, you left or kenneled them. So why do it.  Years of working with working dogs, who spend more of their lives in kennels than most dogs, what we noticed was, (by their actions) they come out of the kennel the same way they go in. that's why we NEVER kenneled a dog on a bad note.

Oh and I agree, the Southpart was a roar. I have it on my ipod.

And this is why time outs sometimes dont work (very well explained by the kid actually) []:
 
[linkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_ltU0YOzmI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_ltU0YOzmI[/link]
 
 

ROTFLMAO! 

And this is why time outs sometimes dont work (very well explained by the kid actually) :

 
That was hilarious!  I am not a fan of time-outs and never saw their purpose.  When I think about how much worse kids are behaved today,  lack of respect, mouthy, etc..... I seem to correlate this influx with the start of the "time-out" movement.  [:'(]    

ORIGINAL: jenhuedepohl


Supernanny: "That behavior is unacceptable!"

I believe it's "unasseptable". []

ORIGINAL: JM


And...Ceasar does have a saying...who runs the US?

Dogs and children.

You know, everything in life depends on your perspective.  If you are Native American, you might believe that illegal immigrants are running the country. []


jones, I was thinking what you typed. []

I'm not sure that time outs work either, but withdrawing privileges works, and so does meaning what you say.  It's not enough to tell kids, "If you do that one more time, I'm going to take away video games for a week".  If they defy you, you have to take the video games away just as you said you would.  Most parents find it too inconvenient to listen to the kids' belly-aching about it, so they give in.  That's the problem.  If you are consistent in applying discipline that matters, you don't need to resort to hitting, spanking, or whatever you want to call it.   I certainly couldn't hit my BF's kids - they weren't mine.  So, I simply took my dear departed mom's advice - say what you mean, mean what you say, don't say it mean.

ORIGINAL: Angelique

I want to see supernanny use clickers and treats for one entire episode, instead of using her more "social" leadership and the setting of boundaries approach. Only reward good behavior with goodies, and ignore the bad.

 
Do you ever consider adding to a thread without being negative and condescending?

ORIGINAL: Scout in Canada

ORIGINAL: Angelique

I want to see supernanny use clickers and treats for one entire episode, instead of using her more "social" leadership and the setting of boundaries approach. Only reward good behavior with goodies, and ignore the bad.

Do you ever consider adding to a thread without being negative and condescending?

 
Off topic.

Properly applied, timeouts do work. The beauty of them is they are an immediate and direct consequence which is understandable at an early age. The SN timeout is not a time when the child thinks about what they've done. It's a way to "reset" the behavior and offer the child a chance to succeed at obeying - the child is removed to the "naughty seat" and must sit there for a prescribed, very small time (one minute per age of child).

Most of the time the child will leave - sometimes the child will leave MANY times. The child is returned without fuss and without comment as many times as needed until the child decides to stay. After time is up, the original behavior is recapped (no possible anaology to canine behavior modification), "We do not allow hitting," and an apology is requested.

I have a child with some behavioral/personality issues - one of them is negative persistance. This means if I try to "wait him out" to get him to do something, he'll just dig in his heels. We "discovered" the timeout when he was about two.

The total freedom puts the ball in his court, the simple expectation makes right and wrong as clear as day and seperates what we are asking from his inappropriate behavior. We are asking him to DO something, which gives him an "out", rather than NOT do something, which is impossible to live up to. This gave us a foothold to start shaping his personality for the better and now most people would never suspect what we went through his first few years. [8|]

I don't use timeouts per se with dogs but I do look for opportunities to simplify what I am asking my dogs to do, if they don't seem to get it. I also "reset" if we hit a wall - going back to a previous level of competency and then revisiting the problem in that context if possible.