Aggressive Dog

Based on what I've seen on TV, I would first find a tennis racket......[]

ORIGINAL: espencer

ORIGINAL: Angelique

At day four he was doing great on leash, and learning to ignore other dogs, but was obeying me grudgingly. In the evening, I gave him a large knuckle bone where he was tethered on the deck and went back inside. When I went outside he went whale-eyed and snarled. I pulled him to me and away from the bone, had my bf keep him at a distance, picked up the bone and took it away, I made sure he saw me do this. Then I went back and told my bf to let him go. It did not go to the point of a bite with this dog, but he was really pissed-off and barking at me. I was standing two feet in front of him. I relaxed, put my hands on my hips and looked down my nose at him. Within 30 seconds he stopped barking, relaxed his tail, put his ears down (hard to tell with a TM's ears!) and broke his gaze. I said "That's bloody-well better!", and walked back into the house. I came back out 5 minutes later and the big goofball rolled over on his back. Everything about this dog changed in that moment. The rest of his six days with me were a dream. His owner was happy, the dog can be walked on leash, he's no longer eating her house, he is listening to her.

This was over two years ago.

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Dog defeated in a psychological way, very good. Angelique, were you being a "bully" again? []

 
Is the goal to defeat or train?

ORIGINAL: silverserpher

Based on what I've seen on TV, I would first find a tennis racket......[]

 
[] Ha-ha-ha...I guess we need a thread in the proper use of the brutal tennis racket blocking technique!

ORIGINAL: silverserpher

Is the goal to defeat or train?

Well they were in a "battle" of proving who would be the top dog, let me refrain that then: Dog trained in a psychological way

Especially since all I could find is a ping-pong paddle.....[]

ORIGINAL: espencer

ORIGINAL: silverserpher

Is the goal to defeat or train?

Well they were in a "battle" of proving who would be the top dog, let me refrain that then: Dog trained in a psychological way

 
I'd call it leadership position established and acknowledged through dog psychology. []

I love it when it is simple.......[]

ORIGINAL: Angelique

I The rest of his six days with me were a dream. His owner was happy, the dog can be walked on leash, he's no longer eating her house, he is listening to her.

 
There were no transitional instructions to the owners when you returned the Tibe?
 
When I went on vacation my sister offered to take in 2 of my GDs.  My sister and her family are regulars at my home so she was very comfortable taking them in.  When I returned the dogs were so stressed out and my sister said never again and she thought my dogs were so aggressive and fear reigned in their house for a week.  I forgot to tell her the dogs were well trained and this how you handle them.  I spent a Saturday afternoon showing them to prepare them for the next time.  All worked out the next time and this time my sister hid the dogs so I wouldn't be able to take them home and away from her.

Ok, I wait a few days more then i'll share.

ORIGINAL: Awsomedog

Ok, I wait a few days more then i'll share.

Tease. []

DPU,

Yes. However, the owners are always the hardest part. IMO

The lady who owns the dog has done okay with him.

But, sometimes it's a bit hard when someone thinks of their dog as a reincarnated dead relative, instead of a dog. [8D]

ORIGINAL: Angelique

ORIGINAL: Awsomedog

Ok, I wait a few days more then i'll share.

Tease. []

DPU,

Yes. However, the owners are always the hardest part. IMO

The lady who owns the dog has done okay with him.

But, sometimes it's a bit hard when someone thinks of their dog as a reincarnated dead relative, instead of a dog. [8D]

Angelique, is it fair to say that you that your approach to handling this situation is purely CM or is it when faced with a real life situation you called upon your experience first, theory second, and then your knowledge of author's practices?  This is assuming you have never had experience with this specific situation and the dog's attributes/characteristics.

ORIGINAL: DPU

Angelique, is it fair to say that you that your approach to handling this situation is purely CM or is it when faced with a real life situation you called upon your experience first, theory second, and then your knowledge of author's practices?  This is assuming you have never had experience with this specific situation and the dog's attributes/characteristics.

All dogs have certain things in common, so I start there before I get into breed, lines, specific dog. I think I made a big list somewhere of the starting point with working with any animal...I forget the thread.

Always, personal experience and the way I read the specific situation, first. Most dog and owner problems are pretty simple. It's not so much that I "follow" CM's handling practices, but that he describes what I know and believe very well in his own words. So, it's easy to disscuss what I understand by discussing what Cesar is doing because it gives a common point of reference. 

My handling methods are a bit different, I work slower, and I use a slightly more psychological approach, than a physical one. But, that is personal preference. I also use some things I've learned from a few dog trainers, studies, and use both classical and operant conditioning methods where I think they will be useful. But I mostly have learned from the dogs themselves. I think every dog teaches us something. Whether we are training, observing, or interacting.

Funny enough, I also use a lot of what I've learned from working with horses, because you have to use a more psychological approach with large animals. Although, the psychology and body language is different from dogs, and horses are flight-over-fight since they are prey animals.

The people factor is always the hardest part. People want to do what feels good to them. They project human emotions onto their dogs, they use human psychology, etc...

A dog is much more simple, and the dogs teach you how you need to work with them, on an individual basis.

I hope that answers your question. [&:]  

The arguement concerning humans using human psychology instead of dog psychology could be as follows:

Every time the field of (human) psychology took an evolutionary leap forward, it was due to dogs.

If not for them, we would probably still be wet nursing Freud's fixation on sex.

So, maybe we are not using human psychology on dogs, but dog psychology on humans.

ORIGINAL: JM

So, maybe we are not using human psychology on dogs, but dog psychology on humans.

 
Define "we".
 
On topic:
 
Would you like to share one of your case histories with us dealing with a dog as close to the OP's situation as possible. Which methods you found useful and successful,  how long it took, and how is the dog doing now?
 
I love case history stories. []

Oh I got to hear this! And soon I'll share mine. But in the mean time, I'll just drool waiting to hear this answer.