Why wont they sleep?

Our dogs are the same way. It's the morning light peeking in the window that wakes our dogs up.

If I'm too tired to take them outside, I just point to the pee bins and ask them to go.  Luckily that works for our dogs, and they snuggle with us and quickly fall back to sleep.

I wish it was that easy for our dogs. I feel bad because I dont know what to do and yelling at them doesnt get us anywhere!

No, yelling won't do anything except confuse them.

The simpliest way to ensure that you are able to sleep as long as you want to sleep is to ban the dogs from the bed and bedroom, or simply have them sleep in their crates at nite.

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 I hate getting up at 6am on saturday and sunday but I also dont want them to mess on the floor!!! lease help!!!!![]

Sorry, that's just how dogs are.  When they wake up, they gotta pee.  Maybe you can make a deal like my BF and I do.  On Saturday, he lets 'em out.  On Sunday, I let 'em out.

Now see, Anne, mine WILL wait.  The boys who still sleep in their crates at nite don't have any choice but to wait, but the other three NEVER bother us until they hear an alarm...and then they'll just stand at the side of the bed and STARE us awake!  Mine have to really go BAD to bother us!

Thats why I love having a dog door. They can do their deed and come back and sleep. When Dingo wants his breakfast or wants you to get up he will stand at the edge of the bed and stare. Its very unnerving.

Zoe only bothers us when she REALLY has to go, but we rarely let her get to that state.  Bear will wait til I wake up.  I just have to mumble Bear go lie down and back to his bed he goes! 

My DH and I have the same sort of deal as Anne does. I get up at 6 every morning during the week, and one day on the weekend. My DH gets up one day on the weekend with them so I can sleep in. 3 of mine won't make a peep... but June has an eenie weenie bladder, and the most accurate internal clock I've ever seen. However, she does NOT wake me up. But, if she's in her crate, the second she hears my breathing change she starts stomping around. If she's out in the house, she comes to my side of the bed and STARES at me. You guys try sleeping with a Border Collie staring at you. There is a reason why sheep move when BC's stare at them.

If I potty and feed them then we can all lay down and go back to sleep, though.

I think they are training YOU. Try totally ignoring them until your alarm goes off at 6:30. This means No telling them NO, no pushing them away, no getting up, no grumbling at them, no letting them snuggle, it means they don't exist to you until the alarm goes off. I bet you won't have a single peeing accident. It will be tough-- they will probably be utter pains for a few days and then, oh joy, they'll stop.
As to sleeping in on weekends-- well, it's not good for you to mess up your body clock anyway.

Thank you everyone for your help! I wish I has a doggie door but I live in townhouses and my yard is open [] I will try the ignoring thing and yes it will be hard haha. I appreciate all the advice and will just keep at it. Maybe ill just try the whole walk them, give them a little bit of food and lay back down thing! []

Break their routine.  They are in the habbit of getting up at a specific time, so one day get them up earlier at 5.  Also break the routine that they go to bed,  make them go out at 2 in the morning.  I watch these two dogs occasionally that are so used to being on a routine feeding that they start to get you an hour before their meal and pester you till they get dinner.  They usually eat at 5-5:30, but if you don't feed them by 7:30 they stop acting hungry.  Its like they eat only because its their routine not because they are hungry.  I try to have no set routine for my dogs and it makes my life easy.  I don't like the idea of having them sleep in crates in other rooms, because it forceably breaks up the pack.  (I know I will get some stern coments for this but...)  I have noticed an increased stress and hyperactivity in dogs that are not given the opportunity to be included in their human pack.  I have noticed this a lot in dogs bread to be close companions.  But in answer to your problem change their routine, keep them up late so that they would rather sleep than get you up.

LOL...but to keep the dogs up, SHE'S gotta stay up and not get any sleep!
 
I think routines are important to dogs.  They need some sort of at least loose general structure to their days just like people do.  And as far as when they eat, well, gosh, if they are used to eating at the same time and you refuse to feed them, of course they are gonna bug you.  I would be very upset if I left my dogs with someone and told them what time I wanted them fed and they didn't do it and made my dogs wait.  I feed my dogs around the same time every morning....that's part of the structure of my day....and around the same time every evening.  So if I just don't feed them and make them wait a couple hours to see if they'll stop acting hungry, well I'm not being very considerate of their needs.
 
Now, yes, there ARE times when I have to be out and they don't get fed at the same general time, but I try to plan my days enough that I know how long I'll be away and to feed them a bit later in the morning and leave them with a stuffed kong so that they aren't hungry if I'm going to be late.  But I also try to plan my long days out for days that my son is home from work and can take care of them.
 
If the dogs are crated outside of the bedroom, but in the same room as one another, they are only being removed from PART of the pack...the part of the pack that gets to make the rules and decide when THEY wanna get out of bed.  I'm an early riser...sometimes as early as 4AM because I wake up and its not worth feeling sluggish the rest of the day to try to grab a couple extra hours sleep...and once I'm awake, I'm awake.  My three youngest males sleep in their crates downstairs in the family room.  Three others have the option of going to their crates or sleeping where ever they want.  But not one of these dogs will disturb us.  I can physically go down to the family room to get on the computer and not hear a peep.  And that's because we HAVE a routine and they know what to expect and when to expect it.
 
Years ago I had a shepherd mix who would actually GO get the boys up when I asked him to.  I'm not sure exactly what happened, cuz now I don't have a dog that will go hop on the bed to wake ANYONE up, even after the alarm has gone off.  They'll sit beside the bed and stare, or they'll hop up on the bed and snuggle, but they will NOT actively try to get anyone up.  There have been a few occassions when Sheba actually put her cold nose in my face, but very few, after I ignored the alarm long enough......but I'm the only one she'll remind that I really do need to get up.  I guess she feels that if Mom is up, the rest of the household will fall into place quickly.
 
The OP has a couple of rude young dogs that need MORE not less routine and structure so that SHE and her SO can sleep when they want to sleep and not be rudely awakened.  She can best accomplish that by following the suggestions she's been given, not by disrupting her own sleep still further.

DH gets up at 6:30 for work and I usually sleep until 9 or 10.... but Bailey gets up as soon as he does and goes crazy.  Ill take her out and TRY to get her to go back to bed... Ive tried the ignoring thing and it sometimes works... shell just fall asleep by the bedroom door on the floor... but not always.  I think with her its a puppy thing and eventually she will sleep until I wake up.  Hope so!  Kayla spoiled me, she would sleep for 3 days if thats how long I stayed in bed.

Actually the people wanted me to fix that anoying problem of the dogs waking them up at 6:30 for food and the problem of begging.  The myth of routine is for people trying to potty train a puppy, if they are on a schedule then it is easier to anticipate when they have to go.  But in my life sometimes I eat dinner early and sometimes I eat late.  I am flexable and my dogs shoud be also. The structure fo my dogs is that they go out when they want and before I go.  They get an hour and a half walk off leash with friends and they will usually be fed twice.  But it does not have to happen at a particular time.  Lack of a routine helps make your dog flexable.  I think the routine myth comes from anthropomorphism, or possibly mine does.