5 Ways to Ruin Your Dog (miranadobe)

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    5 Ways to Ruin Your Dog (miranadobe)

     I won't give a direct link, since this goes to a website for profit, but the entry is DEF worth reading - and sharing.  I don't know how many times I've encountered people who want to tell me why they refuse to crate train, or how they hoped their dog would "grow out of" his horrific behavior....  Share this with dog know-it-alls who tell you you're wasting your time training your dog:

    http://unleashedunlimited.com/5-steps-to-ruining-a-dog/:

    "Last year at this time we made a post about Improving Your Relationship with Your Dog.  This year we thought that we would take a different approach and tell you how to ruin your dog.  Although there are MANY more that could have been added to this list, here are just a few.

    Ignore Every Warning Sign of Behavior Issues - This is another good one if you’re trying to screw up your dog.  Fido bit the kids, he growls when you approach his food bowl, he appears fearful when strangers enter the home, and pins dogs to the ground upon meeting them – ahh, that’s nothing!  It’s probably just a phase, he’ll grow out of it automatically on his own, just ignore it!

    Why this can ruin a dog - Behavioral issues usually start to present themselves long before an actual “event” occurs.  So whether you realize it or not, that weird little character flaw that you are seeing from your dog can quickly escalate into a full blown problem, and often times it’s a lot harder or sometimes impossible to fix.  Many dogs end up in shelters because warning signs were missed and now the responsibility falls to the shelter and the future owner(s).  It’s hard enough to adopt out dogs, let alone those with serious behavior issues.  If you see something you’re not sure of, ask a trainer!!

    Avoid Crate Training Like the Plague - OMG, crate training – NEVER!  How dare you!  Fido doesn’t need a crate, he’s about 1.5 years old now and he only pees and poops in the house a few times while you’re at work.  He can be trusted inside the home while everyone is out, the couch he tore up was old and you were thinking about replacing your kitchen table and chairs anyway, right?!  Perfect!

    Why this can ruin a dog - You may not need to crate your dog for their entire lives, but it’s a great aid in potty training, it’s a fantastic aid in controlling space, it make traveling with your pet a lot easier, and I have never heard anyone regret crate training their dog!  At some point in your dog’s life they are going to have to be crated – there is not getting around this.  Whether it’s at the vet’s office, the groomer, a boarding facility, or at a friends home, the time will come to crate your dog.  If you never expose your dog to a crate and teach them the correct way to behave in the crate, they are going to nervous, anxious, they may panic, and it will be extremely stressful for them, and injury is possible if they try hard enough to escape.

    Encourage and Reward Whining and Other Signs of Anxiety - This seems to be one of the more popular items on the list.  Fido cries in the crate, he runs over to you and shakes when the garbage truck drives past, he has also started to hide behind your legs when men enter the home, and he barks at the window to let you know that someone has just walked past the house.  Make sure you let Fido knows that he’s doing a great job at being afraid, be sure to teach him that his crying is the best way to get your attention, and make sure you constantly touch him and tell him “it’s okay” when he’s fearful and hiding.  That’ll learn ‘em!

    Why this can ruin a dog - Barking, fearfulness, whining, and other anxious behaviors are NOT desirable traits in dogs.  So why do so many owners pet, praise, and verbally mark such behaviors?  From my experience, dog owners may be attempting to send the correct message in these instances, but they are using human emotion to deal with a canine problem.  If your child was nervous of thunder and lightening, you are going to give her a hug and tell her that it’s okay, there is nothing to worry about.  When you do the same for a dog, your’re basically encouraging them to be more fearful by implementing physical touch and verbal praise.  Marking and encouraging behaviors is training.  It’s up to us to make sure that we are marking and encouraging the correct behaviors in our dogs.

    Expect Them to Fill a Void in Your Life – Did you just go through a hard break up, are you lonely, dealing with depression, or having a hard time dealing with all that life is throwing at you lately?  Let’s get a dog!!!!!  Fido will be a great listener, it will be his job to love you, Fido will fill in where your life was lacking.  No need to get to the root of the problem or deal with people in a social manner, that fuzzy little BFF will make it all better!

    Why this can ruin a dog - If you expect a dog to fill a certain void in your life, you will put unrealistic pressures and responsibilities on your dog.  You’re not going to be providing your dog with what he/she needs from you, but instead you’ll be expecting things from your dog that falls outside their umbrella; this quickly creates an unhealthy relationship and behavior issues ensue.

    Avoid Training and Discipline as to Not Make Them Unhappy – This is a good one.  Your last dog never had any training or rules and he was the happiest dog ever – ask anyone, they’ll tell you!  Sure you had to chase him around the neighborhood on a weekly basis when he bolted out of the front door, he was anxious in the house and was always pacing around, he panicked and drooled profusely whenever we took him to the vet, and he was constantly barking at people who walked by the front of the home; but it’s cool, he liked it!  Yeah, he may have had some issues, but at least you never made him do anything that he didn’t want to do.

    Why this can ruin a dog - Some people tend to believe that happiness or spirit is demonstrated by the complete lack of self-restraint and boundaries.  This couldn’t be further from the truth for a dog.  The bottom line is a dog that is unbalanced, anxious, and neurotic is not a happy dog.  They need discipline, structure, and rules in order to thrive in their environment.  They need to be taught to relax and shut off at times, they need to learn to think, they need to know what is expected of them, and they need to be taught skills in order to handle daily life.  All of this is accomplished through training and leads to a balanced and happy dog."

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    Great post, Paige!
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     Can you PM me the link so I can bookmark it?

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    I disagree almost completely with point 3, but the other points are all great points!

    ETA:  I agree with points like letting a whining dog out of a crate, but I disagree with that point regarding behaviour problems resulting from fears/phobias/anxieties.

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    I see what you're saying, Kim, though in general for pet owners it's good for them to stop and think about what their reaction says to their dog.  My cousin had a small dog with one of those complexes where it would charge anyone (dog or person) snarling and biting.  My aunt would then talk to the dog in a soothing voice, pick it up, and stroke it all while it was still spitting at the other person/dog until the person/dog would leave.  We had several lessons on why this is not helping at all.  She didn't believe me at first, but I asked if I could do some training with a clicker and some treats.  In five minutes I had the dog on my lap on a couch with my two GSDs, all being quiet and just chilling out.  I know some dogs like Kenya have really deep rooted anxieties and phobias and it makes no difference whether you ignore undesirable reactions or sooth the dog but for issues that aren't that deep I think a lot of sending the right message (rewarding the right behaviors) goes along way especially for pet owners.

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    Liesje
    I know some dogs like Kenya have really deep rooted anxieties and phobias and it makes no difference whether you ignore undesirable reactions or sooth the dog but for issues that aren't that deep I think a lot of sending the right message (rewarding the right behaviors) goes along way especially for pet owners.

    I agree, Lies. The key is when people (trainers included!) don't understand the difference between learned inappropriate behaviours (ie no real behaviour problem) and emotional disfunction that no amount of coddling would make worse.  Dogs who experience severe anxiety and fear - cannot be made worse by giving attention or reassurance. Period.  Emotions cannot be reinforced, only behaviours.  Dogs do not want to be frightened, it's not pleasurable, so there is no amount of reassurance in the world that will make that fear -worse- the next time. It might not help, and it might -not- be the best course of action, but I hate when trainers and people continue sharing the myth that acknowledging your dog's fear, and possibly -gasp- providing comfort during that time (using T-Touch, games, massage, simply the company of safety, etc) will somehow make your dog's problem worse. Because it won't. 

    I guess I just see quite a bit of the latter in my line of private training work, that makes me get a bit annoyed when I see this myth continue to be perpetuated.

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    Kim_MacMillan
    I hate when trainers and people continue sharing the myth that acknowledging your dog's fear, and possibly -gasp- providing comfort during that time (using T-Touch, games, massage, simply the company of safety, etc) will somehow make your dog's problem worse.

     

    I too get where you're coming from in this regard.  I do think there is a world of difference between offering the type of interaction you're describing above and the type of interaction Liesje described.  The average pet owner would be best served by learning about dog behavior and the sometimes seemingly subtle differences in how an owner's actions and reactions can affect the dog.

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    Kim_MacMillan
    The key is when people (trainers included!) don't understand the difference between learned inappropriate behaviours (ie no real behaviour problem) and emotional disfunction that no amount of coddling would make worse. 

     

    YesI support this statement 100 %.Compassion is not coddling.

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    You guys hit the nail on the head with what i disagreed with in this article. Good stuff
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    Kim_MacMillan
    The key is when people (trainers included!) don't understand the difference between learned inappropriate behaviours (ie no real behaviour problem) and emotional disfunction that no amount of coddling would make worse. 

     

    YesI support this statement 100 %.Compassion is not coddling.

     

    But the behaviors that occur in those states can be reinforced. Behaviors are the observable and measurable things, and behavior is what the dog is actually doing. You absolutely can reinforce behaviors. I think the difference is really in the function of the behavior. In the situations you are describing, the dog is, I would hazard a guess, attempting to escape or avoidance a certain stimuli. If attention is not the maintaining function, it makes no difference how much attention you pay to the behavior (well, it is possible that you could teach the organism that the behavior can be used to obtain other reinforcers, but it's unlikely in this case in my opinion, so I'm going to let that possibility go for now). The typical dog owner however, will not be able to assess function in the moment that the behavior occurs (or any other point for that matter). When we analyze based on antecedents, behaviors, and functions alone,  we can be led to believe a behavior is maintained by attention. For children, we see one child hit another, and the teacher comes in and tells him no. We can be led to believe this is maintained by attention from the teacher, when in truth it is maintained by escaping from the other child for a few seconds, when the teacher comes in and removes him for a few seconds. I had a dog who used to bark at the UPS Truck when it pulled up. I could have yelled all I wanted, and a not so astute observer would have believed it was maintained by attention. The keen eye would realize though that what occurred was the truck would leave. Even though his behavior did not cause the truck to leave, in his little doggie head, this is exactly what happened.  This is often why we do experimental manipulations to determine functions of human behavior. Perhaps a friend of mine will get these techniques perfected for dogs.

    Anyway, you can pay attention all you want, as long as it's not maintained by attention. I wonder if people are just being told this because the behavior is often analyzed as I described.  Someone observes, sees the human pay attention to the behavior, not seeing that during this, the fearful stimulus goes away, and recommends that the human no longer pay attention to the behavior. This gets spread into a generic, just don't pay attention to these behaviors, without regard to the function. It is probably better lest the dog be reinforced for attention maintained behaviors, to tell a person not to make a big deal. It would probably be best however I think, since we can't expect that the typical owner can assess function and act appropriately, to teach the owner to respond in a way that would not make the problem worse no matter what the function (unless that owner is committed to very specialized training in which the trainer can actually assess the function and design a more specific plan). Telling the owner to calmly interrupt the behavior, early in the sequence, and prompt appropriate, alternative behaviors, and praise lavishly for appropriate behavior, would probably not cause a problem to become worse.

     

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    griffinej5
    Telling the owner to calmly interrupt the behavior, early in the sequence, and prompt appropriate, alternative behaviors, and praise lavishly for appropriate behavior, would probably not cause a problem to become worse.

    and that is exactly what good trainers who understand behavior do.  (maybe not the lavish praise, but, whatever. lol)  Kim described games, other trainers would describe invoking other behaviors that are more ingrained than the less desirable behavior (ie, barking at the UPS driver).  I think a calm, confident attitude that makes coming to the owner a "safe" space for the dog is completely reasonable.   I think some trainers or owners who read the post above think trainers who subscribe to this would tell the owner to just give commands, or disregard the dogs distress by completely ignoring the behavior - they don't. I believe when a relationship is built where the dog can defer to training and the relationship with his trainer/owner, the owner has an advantage to overcome anxiety-type behaviors.  When that relationship involves calm, comfortable fair confidence in the leader, the dog has a much better chance of altering behaviors/reactions/whatever to better suit the relationship w/the owner and give the dog a sense of security.  All my opinion, I'm not a scientist with studies to back that up, though. :)

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     For a really good read on the subject, I would recommend "How Dogs Learn," by Mary Burch and Jon Bailey. Dr. Burch is the head of the CGC and AKC Star Puppy programs, and both are behavior analysts (Dr. Bailey does more of his work with people, and they are actually a husband and wife).  I saw them a few years ago, talking about a completely different subject. They do an excellent job of explaining, well just about everything (motivating operations, functional analysis, antecedent control, how extinction actually works). What we are talking about in part here is that not paying attention to a behavior only works if the dog is doing it for attention. If you really want a good understanding of behavior analysis and how it relates to training dogs, definitely pick this up. I was lucky enough to find it while wandering the aisles in my local library (and I justified it as studying since I am actually studying all the topics in the book).

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    Just came across this video, for interesting watching.  :-)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ8ugSSTNmM 

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    Good video and a good explanation between the difference in calming a fearful dog and actually creating more anxiety by making the dog think that the scary thing or situation is indeed something to be scared about. 
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    Can I be PM'd the link for bookmarking? That's some great stuff there.