Of course no affliliation, but since Echo is like a plowhorse on any other collar and leash, I just tried the Holt control collar and.. it kindof works.
I was surfing around and found www.xtremepetproducts.com and on the left is the No-pull training harness. Looks very similar to Holt but it seems the brackets catch up the rope on it and there isnt much tightening under the chest to inhibit pulling.
So I ordered one and a fancy matching leash which has a bungee section and a nice handle like on a ski rope. Maybe that will help with my sprained wrist. ANd getting another LOL.
Go check it out, I think it looks neat, I like the looks of their coupler leashes too!
will put up a review of it when we try it out.