NDF2

I have no experience with it, although it does look interesting.  The only premix that I've used is The Honest Kitchen's Preference. 

If you decide to try it, make sure & keep us updated on how your guys do on it.

it does look interesting.  It contains chicken liver, though, so the Elf can't have it. (and she'd be the one I'd be interested in trying it on) I'd still be interested in hearing how your dog does though

 It looks really interesting. I hope that it helps her out. It contains several ingredients that Emma is allergic to, so it isn't something I'd use (but that goes for every other food on the planet, too!).

I have fed Volhard's Natural Diet (ND) from scratch for many years and also the NDF, though it's been about 5 years now that I've been bouncing around among kibbles and canned and sojos. Darby is in terrible shape and I know how well Gobie and Lexi did on it years ago I wonder if it won't help her come back into balance. I was rereading her books last night and it mentioned dogs with allergies need extra Vitamin C. So I added 75mg of it to her breakfast meal this morning (she's currently using up sojos that I had in the freezer) and already her eyes are less runny. I might be imagining it at this point LOL. She also seems less itchy today. I'll keep an update. it's going to be probably September before the rest of the sojos (feeding to Darby) and Petguard (feeding to Gobie and Lexi) is used up. Then move all of them onto NDF2 and I'll keep an update. All the bane of the "small white dog" syndrome. Pew.

What is Volhard's Natural Diet and NDF2? I'm worrying that my rock Frosty is starting to crumble.He went to the vet Friday morning because he had a hacking cough. He sounded horrible but heart and lungs were good and no fever.Come home with Torbugesic and Doxycycline.He has been having very soft stools and tonight he was trying to recycle!! He is freaking me out.He was also started licking the places were he has peed.

Wow brenda, that is strange behavior. You can find more at www.volhard.com/pages/natural-diet-supplements.php NDF2 is a premix that you add meat and water to. You could read her books as well _Holistic Guide to a Healthy Dog_ ed's 1 and 2. I don't get all excited about the kinesiology parts, but the diet looks solid to me, and as I said I fed it years ago and the dogs were healthy. It's scary when they start to go downhill, isn't it?

Couple days into feeding NDF2 to the girls and Gobie.  Gobie has put on weight but his coat is super shiney.

Lexi and Darby have stopped chewing their feet, in fact the orange fur and brown gunk around their toes is gone as well.  Darby's one stubborn ear infection is gone also.  The 2 bichon girls do not itch like crazy anymore either.   Their tear staining is worse though, as well as beard staining. 

 So the most major benefit to NDF2 is the itching has stopped.  They're really porkng up even on the 10lb feeding amount. Gobie is supposed to be around 13 but he's up to 16 now, Darby is 18 and Lexi is 22.  If I go down any further then they won't get th enutrition they need and I'd have to start supplementing, which kindof defeats the purpose, right?!

So, some good, some bad as is with all foods I spose.

 

Have you tried Honest Kitchen? You can vary it by adding food amounts and it is balanced on the current guidelines so there is plenty of leeway for adjustment.

I tried Honest Kitchen once and my dogs wouldn't touch it. It was Thrive.

I haven't tried the Preference to which you add your own meat.   I might give it a try once the NDF is gone.  Darby's face looks AWFUL today, worse than ever. Second only to Nature's Variety face/beard/tear staining.

I wonder if I should just go ahead and get some angels glow stuff or the girls.

Ugh.

 

 

Have you contemplated having an allergy test done? If it is an environmental/seasonal/etc allergy rather than a food one, you might be able to resolve the issue better if you had a heads up

Yes, I'm taking her in for it on Sept. 1, environmental and food allergy testing

 

 I hope that Darby's allergy test is as useful for you, as Emma's has been, for me. I'm STILL just thrilled to death, and she's doing much better, allergy wise, now that I know what she needs to avoid.

Thanks, I really hope it helps us figure something out for her.  Every day her face just looks worse and worse and her ear is full of black goop.  She thankfully is not chewing her feet but I'm sure that's around the corner.

The people on Volhard are encouraging me to keep her on it because they say it will balance her out. I am also told I'm wasting my money on allergy testing and I should do a profile 7200 which is  cbc, thyroid and some other bloodwork.  Then balance with several different supplements to get her in balance.  This advice though, is leaving me with many doubts because I feel as though my original idea of allergy testing is the better deal and go from there.

 It's confusing!

 Despite what diet propnents may believe, Emma is clinically allergic to several ingredients in most diets, and no amount of "balance" is going to fix that. I'm sure that other dogs have the same issues. Go with your gut!!!