Emma is allergic to.... (jennie_c_d)

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    Emma is allergic to.... (jennie_c_d)

    PEOPLE! No more big meals of human flesh. Seriously. People, and fleas are at the top of her list. So, I'm treating this like I'm allergic to the dog, washing the bedding, vaccuuming more often, feeding myself healthy, fatty foods, LOL. 

     

    She also has food allergies, of course. If the test is right, they aren't at all what I expected. It has her allergic to milk, eggs, wheat, rice, turkey, and lamb. It says chicken is fine. That remains to be seen. The first thing she got to have back was beef. I bought her a bully stick, yesterday, and she was the happiest little dog in the world!

     

    So, fine folks of i-dog, can you name a kibble (besides the potato based NB and Royal Canin kibbles) that doesn't contain milk, eggs, wheat, rice, turkey, or lamb, and isn't a high protein one? I know she could have CORE fish, but I'm hesitant for her kibble to have that much protein. She's got a liver issue, and her BUN is a little off, at this point, so I would rather stay under 30%. She's going to be getting fresh stuff added, of course. 

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    Oh my god, I think I fell out of my chair just now. Emma is allergic to PEOPLE. You have the #1, world's most special-est dog.

    Fromm Surf and Turf? I think Pirate could have that, back when I was looking at kibble. I'd look it up but I'm on my way out the door.

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    Tell Emma my sister is jealous, she is allergic to beef.

    TOTW Pacific:

    Protein: 25% Fat: 15%
    Calories: 3,600 kcal/kg (360 kcal/cup) Calculated Metabolizable Energy

    Ingredients
    Salmon, ocean fish meal, sweet potatoes, potatoes, canola oil, salmon meal, smoked salmon, potato fiber, natural flavor, choline chloride, dried chicory root, tomatoes, blueberries, raspberries, yucca schidigera extract, dried fermentation products of Enterococcus faecium, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Lactobacillus casei and Lactobacillus plantarum, dried Trichoderma longibrachiatum fermentation extract, vitamin E supplement, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, biotin, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, riboflavin (vitamin B2), vitamin D supplement, folic acid.

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    Right off the top of my head, I think that Pinnacle has a Trout/Sweet Potato formula as well as a Duck/Potato that may work.  Perhaps TOTW Pacific Stream would work as well--grain free, but only 25% protein pretty sure it's egg and dairy free.  Also look into ByNature Pork/Sweet Potato formula.  It's too bad there aren't more beef and/or bison kibble out there that would meet your criteria, but most have either rice, dairy or eggs thrown in. 

    If I think of any more options, I'll pop back in.

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     It's all very entertaining, Meg. I was tempted to just put up a post about having to get rid of the kids because the dog is allergic.

     

    Thanks for all of the food suggestions! She can possibly have all of those foods, if she doesn't show any sensitivities when I'm actually feeding her stuff. I'm really wondering how accurate the test was. I haven't fed her chicken since she was a puppy. 

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     You should be able to find Blackwood down there.

    And check out the Eagle Pack formulas. Don't dismiss their regular line just because of the corn. I like their food because they tend to be simple.

    If you don't mind feeding canned there's lots of nice options - Tripett, Ziwipeak, Canine Caviar, Addiction all have some interesting choices.

    Ben was allergic to people dander too. AND dogs. Top that one! LOL.

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     They didn't test her for dogs! That's one I'm fairly certain of. I noticed, quite some time ago, that if a dog was high dander, her face puffs up. She LOOOOOVES Chinese Cresteds, though. She was in a room with 15 of them, the other night, eating it UP!

     

    I don't *mind* canned, so much, but kibble is easy. It's easy to travel with, easy to use for training (highly food motivated dogs that I have), easy, easy, easy. Blackwood is one I didn't think of. That's a good idea. Eagle Pack all has rice in it. Rice, everywhere. *sigh*

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     Geez, every Blackwood food has eggs, cheese, or turkey. Emma Nems is such an evil, evil, little learning experience. I can't believe all the stuff I've done trying to help, that's hurt her. I spit kibble at her. I fed her from my hand. I dried her, after her bath, with the towel I used last night. I have even brushed her hair with my brush, because she was clean, and asking to be brushed. I just ruuuuub dander all over her, and then feed it to her.

     

    LOL, these realizations ALONE might be enough that she feels much better.

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    I know you would like to keep the protein levels a bit lower, but how about the Ziwi Peak "air dried"---it's not kibble, but are jerky-like bits----the Venison formula is 28% protein, and the Venison/Fish is a bit higher at 30%.  I actually love this food (as well as the cans) as the formula is quite simple and my G-I challenge guy does great on all of the formulas (esp. the lamb---which is out for Emma).  It can be a bit expensive to feed as the staple of the diet, but could be used for supplemental feeding and treats.

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     Addiction has a dehydrated too. Several formulas aimed at different sensitivity groups.

    Check out K9 Cuisine for free samples - you have to pay shipping unless you purchase $50 of something, but they've got the Ziwi Peak cans right now, and seveal othe dry foods that are worth checking out. It changes all the time, too.

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    Back to Basics I think makes a pork based food that I think doesn't have anything from your list. 

    I know Merrick has Before Grain now but not sure if would meet your criteria. 

    Evangers makes a food too, not sure if it's pheasant??

    Good luck! 

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    Addiction also has a line of kibble--I think the Salmon formula meets your criteria.  Also check out PureVita----they have a Duck/Oatmeal, and Salmon Potato that meet your needs, as well.

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    jennie_c_d
    PEOPLE! ! No more big meals of human flesh. Seriously. People, and fleas are at the top of her list.

      That's a tough one; poor Emma.Sad  Was her score high enough to need immunotherapy?  If she tested allergic to storage mites it's helpful to store her food in an air tight container and use all the food within a few weeks.You also need to wash the container with soap and hot water before refilling it. Storage mites are in foods that have grains so feeding a grain free food is a way to avoid them.

     

    jennie_c_d
    If the test is right, they aren't at all what I expected. It has her allergic to milk, eggs, wheat, rice, turkey, and lamb.
      You may want to see if she's really allergic to some of those foods by giving them to her while she's still on the z/d. You would need to give one food at a time, adding it to the z/d. If she doesn't show a reaction in a few weeks, it's unlikely that she's allergic to that food. Jessie's food allergies are different so my list of acceptable foods won't help. Good luck; feel free to e-mail me if I can help.

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     I have no idea if she scored high enough for immunotherapy. I was not very happy with the interaction I got from the vet, this time. I called, a week after he recieved the results, and he faxed them to me. That's all I got.

     

    I'm doing exactly that, Janice. Adding one food at a time (starting with foods that she scored 0 on, of course), before I make any real decisions. This week, it's beef. Emma is extremely pleased. 

     

    Thanks so much for the suggestions, everyone. I hadn't even heard of Back To Basics. This is all very good to know.

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    jennie_c_d

     I have no idea if she scored high enough for immunotherapy. I was not very happy with the interaction I got from the vet, this time. I called, a week after he recieved the results, and he faxed them to me. That's all I got.

     

       Without any comments as to how to interpret the results?  I take Jessie to a dermatologist at a vet teaching school and she decided, based on the test results and Jessie's history ( what times of the year she has the most problems) that she needed immunotherapy and what allergens to include in the serum.

      

    jennie_c_d
    I'm doing exactly that, Janice. Adding one food at a time (starting with foods that she scored 0 on, of course), before I make any real decisions. This week, it's beef. Emma is extremely pleased. 

       I started with beef too so Jessie could have bully sticks; she had gotten a lot of tartar on her teeth. I tried each food for two weeks or until she showed a reaction. She reacted to salmon the quickest; I added 2 ounces of canned salmon to the z/d daily and after four days two of her feet were red because she was chewing on them and her ears became itchy. It never took her more than a week to react to foods she was allergic to.