Taste of the Wild...a Diamond product

Really?? Wow, cool.....but it's like waaay more expensive thou, right?

I have a VERY low opinion of Diamond based on several recalls and their reaction to those recalls.

I believe that a 30 lb bag is about 42 bucks.  However, the kcals in this grain free are around 370 or 390 per cup, as opposed to Blue with 505 per cup and only slightly less protein.  I had actually considered giving it a try, however, knowing who makes it completely changes my mind on that.

I've haven't heard much on Diamond recalls(probably hadn't been paying attention as I wasn't feeding it then).

I feed Diamond because its an Ok food(there on Naturals now) and I can afford it. Once I get a real job, they'll be switched to soemthing higher quality....but until then.....

I'm confused...and sorry that I must be getting people mixed up, but I thought Glenmar that you were one of the people that mentioned that quite a time back??

 That was one of my fears and worries when I fed TOTW Salmon, I loved the results I was seeing...I fed two bags of it. However, when the company refused to respond to my e-mail and concerns over whether or not their fish was treated with Ethoxiquin (which can be cancerous causing) I refused to feed it any longer.

I'm VERY leary of ethoxiquin in ANY food that has fish in it; only exception to that rule is Orijen, they are the only company that has literally proven they don't use fish treated with it.

I'm not into feeding any kind of food or treats with chemical preservatives, but even BHT and BHA don't scare me as bad as Ethoxiquin.

Maybe I  did and just forgot?  Not much of a stretch given the old stress levels here lately!

I had seen this at Tractor Supply when I picked up my Blue and was really excited about them carrying another higher quality food.  I guess I thought it was a newer product.  There web site has NO mention of Diamond at all.  To me it looks like they are trying to hide who they really are and that makes me suspious.

I feed Diamond because its an Ok food(there on Naturals now) and I can afford it. Once I get a real job, they'll be switched to soemthing higher quality....but until then.....

only takes one batch with poison in it to seriously over-ride the "ok" factor, though. You never know what, exactly, is in that bag. All you have to go on is the company's reputation and past history.

Exactly MP.  If you look at the bag and at their website, Diamond is not mentioned at all.  And their plant is listed in MO, or at least their headquarters.

I honestly thought this was a newer product, and until I really looked hard at the kcals and the protein, I was kind of excited about it.  I had decided that the kcals were too low and I wouldn't try it BEFORE I realized who makes it, but that's just the final nail in the coffin for me.

There were plenty of folks who thought Nutro was a good food, until their dogs became seriously ill or died in that last recall.

It is not a new product, newer for us but not new. I knew Diamond manufactured it when I was doing a search.

As far as it only takes one batch? Diamond had the recall in 2006, and since then have put into place more testing practices, settled the class action lawsuit and never hid from what they had done. They responded quickly too and for the record I am not obsolving them of wrong doing, but I do think they have emerged a better company because of what happened.

In the 2007 HUGE recall alot of companies got caught, including Blue Buffalo, Iams, Science diet and Purina to name a few.

Taste of the Wild is made with 99.9% US products. Is grain free, which, unless cross contamination happens, is safe from aflatoxin, which in my opinion can happen at anyplace that uses grain.

Now, unless you grow it, cook it and serve it yourself you run the risk of harming not only your pets but your family with anything. Anyone want some peanut butter? or how about last years tomato's?

Everything comes with risks.

ETA: Cats and keyboards don't mix, hence the incomplet and undedited post...sorry

Actually, because of the recall, and because the canning partner Blue used was known to have purchased some of the rice gluton, Blue started testing their cans.  They found NO contaminants, but they did find an ingredient that wasn't in their recipe or on their label.  Due to that, they pulled every single uncontanimated can of food off the shelves and KEPT them off the shelves until they found a new canning partner and restarted production.

DS spent a couple of hours on a company wide conference call over that voluntary recall.  There was NOTHING WRONG WITH THE FOOD, it simply did not meet the Blue Buffalo requirements.

That's widely known. Pretty sure it says so on the site as well.

My point, if there is one is that nothing is safe, nothing!

I blame Diamond for lack of testing in the pet recall of 2006. I am willing to give them another chance, and since the bag I buy is grain free I feel confident in my choice, the main thing is it works for Kord, and to me that means more than anything else. And that is what everyone IMO, should be concerned about.

I do not believe that there would have been any kind of pet recall in 2007 had it not been for this:

"As a result of FDA and USDA's comprehensive investigation, on February 6, 2008, FDA announced that two Chinese nationals and the businesses they operate, along with a U.S. company and its president and chief executive officer, were indicted by a federal grand jury into the for their roles in a scheme to import products purported to be wheat gluten United States that were contaminated with melamine. "

I don't blame any company that was on that list in 2007, but it proved that no one is 100% safe from contamination or even possible contamination.

Diamond makes many well thought of foods..and I feed their Naturals line, to my dogs. They are doing great on it. They did not do so on Blue...so once again we're back to feed what works...

Nice side benefit is that feeding Diamond I can shop locally and not have to buy dog food at least, from PM any longer.

See, I'm funny I guess about the companies I'm willing to put my faith in.  Diamond, Nutro and Merrick have all "proven" to me that QC isn't at the top of their list, and I just flat am not willing to risk my dogs lives to those companies.  Much the same as I will not use any vaccines from Fort Dodge, or any meds for MYSELF made by them.

The intent of this thread wasn't to bash Diamond and I'm sorry it's turned into that.  The TOTW website has NO mention of Diamond that I could find.  I simply thought that folks should be aware of WHO makes this food, if they weren't already.

 I had no issue with TOTW being "made by Diamond."  There's a fine line these days in that respect with outsourcing of production and outside sourcing of ingredients.  For instance, Canidae switched their production to a Diamond plant and at the same time mysteriously decided that their excellent, highly unique and widely tolerated ingredient profiles would all be changed to profiles that look suspiciously like similar Diamond Naturals products.  Only the Canidae line is spendier.

I'm cool with Diamond at the moment.  I don't see that there is "all those QC issues" here - there's two recalls on their record.  One was eight years ago, affecting a particular ingredient which I've always avoided in foods anyway, and they've changed a lot since then.  The other was the same recall that caught out such brands as Canine Caviar, Natural Balance, and yes, Blue Buffalo.  Neither Blue Buff nor NB had good explanations, to me, as to how their supposedly gluten free foods could be affected by a recall on gluten containing products.  That ended my respect for either of those companies.  I'm still good with Canine Caviar because they sent me personally, a passionately apologetic and highly specific explanation on the chain of production in their company and how the beaver ingredients had been implied in the melamine madness.

ETA:  I meant to say, Although I've been confident in Diamond in the PAST, I have current reason to be suspicious.  I still use it off and on but I've pretty much switched my livestock guardians to homemade, as well, now.  They have not done quite as well on the Extreme Athlete as previously and I'e noticed my young girl acting like she craves meat protein.  So, I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop there.