Dogs vomiting, runny stool from Evangers?

    • Gold Top Dog

    Dogs vomiting, runny stool from Evangers?

    Well, yesterday I bought a can of Evangers Super premium Beef with Chicken dog food. Today I split the can between my two puppies, Roscoe and Bixby. Roscoe, who has a stomach of steel, was taking a nap with me and suddenly got up. He jumped on the floor and started vomiting everywhere. I got up, let him out and checked on my puppies. They both have diarrhea. Bixby thus far seems okay (she had the least). I dug the can out of the trash can so I can write them and explain what has happened and that I'd like my money back. Then I get on here, go a page back, and see there is a warning about Evangers.

     

    Great. Just great.

     

    They all seem to be okay now that they've gotten the bulk of it out of their systems, but I am really worried. Figures I'd read the warning about it after I've fed it to my dogs.

    Other than these problems, is there anything else I should be worried about? Could they get an infection from this or is a vet trip advised even though they've stopped showing symptoms? I feel like an idiot. Here I am trying to buy the right foods for my dogs, and I feed them this!

     

    Edit: I am taking my dogs to the vet in the morning.

    • Gold Top Dog

    I hope everything turns out OK for your 2 puppies. Don't be too hard on yourself. You were trying to do the right thing, Sometimes it's hard to know.

    FYI, you should never just switch foods on a dog, especially puppies. There should always be a period of introducing the new food a little at a time into what they are used to eating. It probably won't harm the dog, but there certainly could be some negative response from their digestive system. Hopefully, that's all you're seeing. I'll be watching to see what the vet says. Good luck!

    • Gold Top Dog

    did you actually read the warning about Evangers? it's a paperwork issue with the FDA; nothing actually wrong with the food. Digestive upset after sudden food changes is pretty common in dogs.

    • Puppy

     I have fed the premium beef with chicken along with kibble a couple of times in the past few weeks and haven't had any problems. My guess is that it was too rich for them.

    • Gold Top Dog

         My dogs never did well with rich, ingredient dense foods either. One such food gave a few of my dogs bloody diarrhea - actually it was just a pool of blood with some mucous that smelled like poo Indifferent In that case, it was diagnosed as food related colitis. They recover from it quickly, and should not need anything more than some plain yogurt to get their digestive systems back on track.

         Now we look for diets that have bland ingredient lists with as few ingredients as possible and NO veggies or other supplements. If you want to add those extras, they're better tolerated if you just add fresh veggies or supplements as needed. For bad upsets, boiled cheicken breast and a spoonful of white rice - even banannas (they are great binders) - are very helpful for upset tummies :)

    • Gold Top Dog

    I think taking them to the vet just for piece of mind is a good idea and can't hurt.  I don't believe the warnings about Evangers involved any recall of the actual product so I think you are OK there.  I've found the Evangers especially anything with beef to be extremely fatty--so that could be the issue with your dogs having trouble.  I also found the cans I purchased to be very different from can to can--sometimes the Hunk of Beef would look perfect, others I'd want to just throw it out. 

    • Gold Top Dog

    The main reason I am concerned is because the dogs had such a bad reaction to so little of it. A can split between four dogs, most of it going to the largest dog and not much at all to the pups. Regardless, the dogs are doing pretty darn good this evening. A little mucus in the stool, lots of drinking, but eating fine. Ace was a little lethargic earlier but after some dry kibble and a long nap he is being himself.

     

    I had a long discussion with my vet this morning about the situation. He said yes, it is a very real concern, but as some of you guys have said, it might just be that it was a new food. Also it could easily be plain and simple food poisoning that won't cause the same problems I feared. He said dehydration is really the main concern. He said he could send off the remaining food in the bottom of the can for testing, but it is 350 dollars and would take "several weeks" for results. We all decided to keep the can in the freezer just in case something should happen in the near future, keep them on a bland diet, keep things low key and see how it goes. The dogs are really acting better than I expected. Heh, my fiance tells me I overreacted (though he was more than willing to take them to the vet) and I guess that's possible. Can't be to careful though, acting quickly is important.

     

    Thanks for the suggestions, I really appreciate it. I think I will just stick with Blue Buffalo puppy food and Solid Gold Hund-N-Flocken dry kibble, and Canidae moist food for now. It works well for my dogs and I won't risk upsetting their digestive systems again.

    • Gold Top Dog

    That's good to hear and I hope they continue to get better! Thanks for the update!  

    • Puppy

    I'm not sure if they still do, but I know as of a year ago that Evangers made the Canidae canned food. If you're concerned about possible problems at the Evangers plant, you might want to double-check and see if they are still canning for Canidae.