Fromm Grain Free

    • Gold Top Dog

    Fromm Grain Free

    Has anyone tried the new grain free surf and turf? If so, did your pets like it? I don't think they have it in our food store yet, I just saw it on the Fromms website, but I'm not sure how long it has been out because I don't look at the site often. I feed a rotation of the different fromm 4-star protein sources now for kibble and then also add raw, homemade and sometimes canned to their meals.

    I've never tried a grain free before. Is grain free safe for puppies? I was thinking about picking up a small bag of this when they get it in to see if the dogs do well on it.

    Ingredients from the website:

    Surf & Turf
    FOR DOGS

    A grain-free blend of fresh Wisconsin duck, wild salmon, chicken, hand-picked vegetables & fruit, eggs, and real Wisconsin cheese.

    • Completely Grain-Free
    • High-Meat Content
    • Low Ash Content
    • Cartilage Rich in Natural Glucosamine
    • Real Wisconsin Cheddar Cheese
    • Prebiotics & Probiotics to Aid Digestion
    • Optimum Omega Fatty Acids Ratio

    Ingredients:
    Salmon, Duck Meal, Potatoes, Pea Flour, Sweet Potatoes, Duck, Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), Dried Tomato Pomace, Salmon Meal, Whole Dried Egg, Pea Protein, Chicken, Flaxseed, Cheese, Salmon Oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols), Chicken Broth, Carrots, Broccoli, Cauliflower, Apples, Green Beans, Lecithin, Chicken Cartilage, Potassium Chloride, Cranberries, Blueberries, Salt, Chicory Root Extract, Alfalfa Sprouts, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Folic Acid, Parsley, Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Bifidobacterium Longum, Lactobacillus Plantarum, Enterococcous Faecium, Vitamin A, D3, E, B12 Supplements, Choline Bitartrate, Niacin, Pantothenic Acid, Ascorbic Acid, Riboflavin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Biotin, Zinc Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Manganous Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Cobalt Carbonate, Calcium Iodate, Sorbic Acid, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Sodium Selenite.

    Calorie Content:
    kcal/lb: 2,000 | kcal/cup: 440

    Guaranteed Analysis

    Protein 30% Min
    Fat 19% Min
    Fiber 3% Max
    Moisture 10% Max
    Ash 6.5% Max
    Omega 6 Fatty Acids 3.2% Min
    Omega 3 Fatty Acids 0.5% Min
    Lactobacillus Acidophilus 100,000,000 CFU/lb Min
    Bifidobacterium Longum 100,000,000 CFU/lb Min
    Lactobacillus Plantarum 100,000,000 CFU/lb Min
    Enterococcous Faecium 100,000,000 CFU/lb Min

    • Gold Top Dog

    holy crap this stuff looks AWESOME SalemsMom!!! THANKS! totally going to look into it!!!

    • Gold Top Dog

     I got Ella a bag of it a couple of weeks ago, but I haven't opened it and fed her any yet.  I'm waiting to get further into our EP holistic lamb and rice before breaking open that bag.

    • Gold Top Dog

    Looks real good....

    Will have to try it... Levels of protein and ash look better than most Grain free

       They make a good Cranberry Liver treat I always buy.

    • Gold Top Dog

    That does look fantastic.  Ok to ask how much it is?

    Bet the dogs will enjoy the flavor of that food. 

    • Gold Top Dog

    I haven't tried their treats before. I will have to keep an eye out for them! Their products are somewhat pricey, but Salem does awesome on them. It took me awhile to find something that kept weight on him and didn't leave him an itchy mess.

    The grain free looks good to me too. I'm going to try it the next time we buy food. I still have a bag of duck and a bag of salmon at home that I want to get through first though.

    If anyone tries it let me know how your dogs like it. Cheza will eat anything, but Salem is really picky. I have brought countless bags of food to the humane society that he just wont touch or wont eat enough of to keep on weight.

    • Gold Top Dog

    I think, if I remember correctly, it's about as much as Timberwolf is.

     

    I'll let you know how Ella likes it (though she eats most anything, but I'll let you know how she digests it). 

    • Gold Top Dog

     Ella has been eating this food and is about through a 5 lb (I think) bag of it and I'm going to buy a bigger bag tomorrow because she is doing GREAT on it.  Granted, I'm still adding Prozyme to it, but she's not pooping 4 times a day on it like she was with Eagle Pack (she was pooping like that on Eagle Pack because she was constipated, if that makes sense).  But she is handling this food nicely.  Nice firm (but not HARD like constipation poop) stools that are small, twice a day.

     

     Just thought I'd update you all.Big Smile

    • Gold Top Dog

    Looks nice...but I get SOO bumbed when they come out with a salmon or other formula meat based diet and follow it up with chicken fat, chicken something or rather.....makes it unusable if your dog has a chicken allergy.

    • Silver

    Actually the proteins in chicken that cause allergies are NOT found in chicken fat so dogs with allergies to chicken CAN indeed eat foods with chicken fat in them. 

    • Gold Top Dog

    Granted...but it still lists chicken, chicken broth, and chicken cartilage as ingredients too.

    • Gold Top Dog

     

    24Pawsnclaws

    Actually the proteins in chicken that cause allergies are NOT found in chicken fat so dogs with allergies to chicken CAN indeed eat foods with chicken fat in them. 

     

     

    Ideally, yes, this would be the case.  But unfortunately, it's hard to separate meat from the fat.  I know this as I ALWAYS pull the fat off chicken before I wash and cook it and I inevitably yank meat off with it.  And machines that are used to pull the fat off often are the same machines to process the fat, so it still gets meaty stuff mixed in, or they don't clean the machine before they process the fat.  It's difficult to guarantee that no chicken meat will be in with the fat, basically. 

    • Gold Top Dog

    24Pawsnclaws

    Actually the proteins in chicken that cause allergies are NOT found in chicken fat so dogs with allergies to chicken CAN indeed eat foods with chicken fat in them. 

     

      Not always; it depends on how sensitive the dog is to chicken and how well the fat is refined. There are studies on PubMed which seem to indicate that the more refined the fat or oil, the less likely the chance for an allergic reaction. Jessie is allergic to chicken but can eat foods with chicken fat, but there are dogs on the forum who will react to it.