Need an opinion on this dog food

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    Need an opinion on this dog food

     Need an opinion on this dog food


    Chicken, brewers rice, corn gluten meal, oat meal, pearled barley, fat naturally preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of Vitamin E), dried egg product, soy flour, calcium phosphate, natural flavor, calcium carbonate, potassium chloride, salt, vitamins [Vitamin E supplement, niacin, Vitamin A supplement, calcium pantothenate, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin supplement, Vitamin B-12 supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride, folic acid, Vitamin D-3 supplement, biotin, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity)], choline chloride, minerals [zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, manganese sulfate, copper sulfate, calcium iodate, sodium selenite],L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate [source of Vitamin C].

    GUARANTEED ANALYSIS:
    Crude Protein (Min) 25.0%
    Crude Fat (Min) 15.0%
    Crude Fiber (Max) 3.0%
    Moisture (Max) 12.0%
    Linoleic Acid (Min) 2.3%
    Calcium (Ca) (Min) 1.0%
    Phosphorus (P) (Min) 0.8%
    Selenium (Se) (Min) 0.30 mg/kg
    Vitamin E (Min) 200 IU/kg
    Ascorbic Acid* (Min) 70 mg/kg

    Every product begins with natural meat and poultry or fish sourced from animals that were never given added growth hormones or antibiotics. Nearly all other pet foods utilize meat or poultry meals and by-product meals to deliver the protein needed by dogs and cats.

    Corn Gluten Meal
    High in Methionine
    Corn gluten meal is different from the traditional corn grain used in many pet foods. Corn gluten meal is the high-protein part of the corn kernel that remains when the starch, bran, and germ are extracted. We use highly digestible corn gluten meal for its essential vitamins and minerals, in addition to its role as a rich source of the essential amino acid methionine, which is important to overall pet health.

    Corn and corn gluten meal are often blamed as the source of allergic reactions in companion animals. However, corn gluten meal is - in fact - among the least allergenic ingredients for pets. Additionally, according to veterinary dermatologists, corn is not listed as an ingredient most often suspected of causing food allergies.

    Oat Groats
    High in Carbohydrates & Protein
    Oat groats are cleaned oats with the hulls removed.

    Pearled Barley
    High in Soluble Fiber
    Pearled barley is produced from whole barley seeds that have been scoured to remove the seed hull and bran.
    Due to its unique nutritional makeup, modest amounts of slowly digested starch and the soluble fiber-glucan, pearled barley is more digestible than whole or cracked barley.

    Natural Meat, Poultry, and Fish
    Meat and poultry is sourced only from animals that were never given added growth hormones or antibiotics.
    We only use natural meat, and never rendered meals.
    We use natural meat or poultry as our lead ingredients, and balance our formulation with ingredients that supply additional protein, vitamins, minerals, and essential amino acids necessary for a healthy diet.

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     To me, the food looks too high-grain with not enough meat. The first ingredient is "chicken," which is great, but just plain chicken meat has a lot of water so when it's put into kibble form just plain "chicken" condenses down pretty fast so it doesn't make up as much of the food as you might think it would. The rest of the major ingredients are grains. If you don't mind the majority of the kibble's protein coming from corn gluten meal, as it seems like it does with this kibble, then no worries. For me though I prefer meat to be the primary protein source for my dog's food. :) Meat and poultry meals aren't actually that bad - all it means is that the bones are ground up with the meat. In the wild or in raw diets the dog would be crunching up a lot of the bones, anyway, so having a meat "meal" in my dog's food doesn't bother me a bit. Then again, I'm far from an expert, so feel free to disagree with my opinions!

    Edit: wooo! Missed that it contains menadione - I would not feed that food. Here's what the DogFoodProject.com has to say (with references) about why it's bad: http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=menadione

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    http://www.petpromiseinc.com/parents.aspx

     I don`t feed it and wasn`t even considering it. I feed Canidae ALS. Not bad though for a food they sell in a local grocery store.

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    hdkutz
    Not bad though for a food they sell in a local grocery s

     

    The only reason I would consider feeding it is because of its simplicity. My dog's metabolism does best on very simple food.

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    super-yuck. The chicken is mostly water by weight, so the main ingredient is actually brewer's rice, then they spike it with corn gluten to pretend it has protein in it. Corn gluten is not a complete protein- it is deficient in several amino acids and thus adding it makes the % protein on the bag much higher than the amount of protein the dog is actually able to utilize.

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    mudpuppy

    super-yuck. The chicken is mostly water by weight, so the main ingredient is actually brewer's rice, then they spike it with corn gluten to pretend it has protein in it. Corn gluten is not a complete protein- it is deficient in several amino acids and thus adding it makes the % protein on the bag much higher than the amount of protein the dog is actually able to utilize.

     

    Not to mention the unnamed fat source . That can be from just about anything and you really might just get melted down dog or cat fat.

    I bet the price is good...  but long term feeding might give your dog some issues.

    If you don't have this link it is a great resource for a lot of dog issues.

    http://www.dogaware.com/

     

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    I tend to watch out for foods with corn gluten, barley and soy.  Both of mine scratch a lot if these 3 are together in a dry food.  I'm not sure which one is the culprit but I'm thinking its the barley.  When I fed the Nutro Naturals line all of the scratching and paw chewing stopped and they only have rice in the chicken for sensitive stomachs.  They do have soy oil in it so it narrowed it down to corn or barley.  Unfortunately, my dog quit eating the food after just a few weeks

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    With the corn gluten meal, soy flour, generic fat and menadione bisulfite I'd say it's about the same as Pro Plan, Purina ONE and Iams. So I'm not impressed even for a grocery store brand.