Pancreatitis Diet?

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    Pancreatitis Diet?

    It's been a long weekend...my poor schnauzer had an acute pancreatitis attack Friday night and after IV, pain meds, antibiotics, and a good vet, she's home now.  The vet did send home a prescription food for the next few days, but after that she said that I can gradually phase back in Jenna's diet of Nutro Natural Choice little bites and cooked, plain veggies. 
     
    However, I have no idea what else to feed her like for treats and such.  She used to get at least one treat a day and then a raw chicken wing on the weekend.  What should I look for in her treats?  I know that it needs to be low-fat and low-protein, but she doesn't like many of the low-fat treats that I've found and tried before (she used to be overweight a couple of years ago).  What % is considered high-fat or protein?
     
    Poor thing...my other doggie will still get the chicken wings and other treats, because I have noticed a great change in her teeth, but I hate to give them to Allie and not something to Jenna.  I don't want this happening again though, because I was sick with worry and my husband thought that I was going to lose it.
     
    Any advice or experiences?
    • Gold Top Dog
    Hi and welcome to the forum! 
     
    So sorry you had to go thru that, it seems to always happen on the weekends too, doesn't it??
     
    I'm not too familiar with this condition myself.  But, my boss did have a dog with the same condition.  As far as treats she used to break in half the Old Mother Hubbard biscuits, the Couch Potato or the Low Fat Veggie.  And, I know she also used Neura Meats, they make a can that  specifically says Low Fat.  Willow also gets a few low fat treats if you want I can tell you which ones I buy. 
     
    I know someone will come and give more information.  A few people here have first hand experience with this. 
     
    Good luck. 
     
    Lori
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    Here's an article you may want to read
    [linkhttp://b-naturals.com/Jul2004.php]http://b-naturals.com/Jul2004.php[/link]
     
    For snacks, many places now carry dehydrated chicken breast that are usually pretty low in fat.
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    Thanks for that article! 
     
    Willowchow, I would like to know what low-fat treats you feed your dog...I'll take any suggestions that I can.  I want her to live as normal a life as possible, but also be healthy.
     
    She likes the Mother Hubbard treats, so I need to pick more of those up.
    • Gold Top Dog
    acute pancreatitis attacks aren't usually caused by fat in the diet, and most dogs don't have repeat episodes. Do you know what caused this attack?
    Only in dogs who develop chronic pancreatitis do you need to feed a very low-fat diet.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Willow's favorites are here, [linkhttp://www.dogswell.com]www.dogswell.com[/link]. 
     
    Also, if you shop at Petco you can get the vanilla pretzel shaped cookies from the pet cookie bar.  Those are very low fat too and bland.  Also, a Willow favorite and she's very fussy.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Have you tried using bits of dried fruit as treats? I mean the kind that's sold for humans. My dog loves them. Any kind except raisins should be fine for dogs.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Spot has had 2 pancreatitis attacks in the last year, the last one was just after Christmas.

    I would also like to know, if you know what caused the attack(?) My dog is fine with foods that have an average % of fat (I mean like around 15%)....when he got pancreatitis the first time it was when we gave him the Christmas Ham Bone (I know, not good), it still had a lot of meat/fat on it. We took him to the vet and they gave us antibiotics, and he said all I should feed was boiled chicken and rice for about a week and slowly re-introduce his regular food....he seemed all better within a couple of days.

    After he got better, my dad dumped bacon grease on the snow, he didn't think Spot would eat the snow, but he did, and had another attack....so I told my dad NOT to do that anymore. My dad felt pretty bad after that.

    I'm sorry you had to go through that because it's so tough and makes you worry like hell, lol.

    I give Spot the Old Mother Hubbard treats too, or I make my own treats. He hasn't had an attack since so I think it has to be something REALLY fattening for them to have an attack.

    God bless!
    • Puppy
    A really good treat for you little one if he eats can food or if there is a can food diet available in the bran that he is currently eating you can make your own cookies.

    Take the same brand can food and mix it up with some water, put it onto a cookie tray and bake and voila, same food cooked treats !!!

    • Gold Top Dog
    I had a young dog get acute pancreatitis years ago.  I couldn't remember what he had eaten (it was in my all-kibble days).  My vet said it didn't take much, especially if there's a genetic predisposition there.  Well, interesting, I found out later a kissin' cousin had died of pancreatic failure.  I'm a raw feeder but I won't dispute what my vet told me.  I don't doubt that dogs are not particularly adapted to consume significant quantities of plain fat, especially cooked or rancid.  Most game meats are pretty lean.

    Anyway, the good news is that my young dog went on to be able to tolerate foods of every description.  I was careful for about a year after that happened, and then switched him to a high-protein, high-fat ration because he was a walking skeleton with all the work he was doing (sometimes running nearly non-stop for hours in hot weather).  I didn't have a single problem, switched him to our current protocol with no problems, and he's continued in good health.

    Oh, I also used a digestive aid that first year, which was extremely helpful in keeping things on an even keel.  He did have a sensitive tummy for a few months afterward but that stuff helped immensely.  Don't use yogurt because the fat has to be calculated into his diet, complicating things even more.  I used Prozyme powder. [link>http://www.dog.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=221168+001&Cat=]http://www.dog.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=221168+001&Cat=[/link]
    • Gold Top Dog
    Take the same brand can food and mix it up with some water, put it onto a cookie tray and bake and voila, same food cooked treats !!!


    I tried that a couple of times.Once with innova canned and the other time with CN,it didnt work either time.However i wasnt sure about the temp or cooking time.After an hour on 350 it was still mush,and i didnt even add any water to it.No-one could tell me the exact details on how to turn canned into treats [&:]
    • Gold Top Dog
    LOL - I think the food would have to contain some kind of available gluten for just baking to work.  Don't think either one of those has  anything other than potato cubes in that department?  Can't remember.  You'd have to add oatmeal, cornmeal, or some other meal or flour.  You can use potato flour but it will make a very, very soft or crumbly cookie.
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    I just got a chance to check back...thanks for all the responses!

    The only thing that the vet and I can figure out that might have caused it was a bully stick.  I gave it to her on Thursday and by Friday night she was sick.  She had never had one before, and now she won't have one again!

    She is doing better, she did have a slight relapse on Monday night, but the vet thinks that that was due to the antibiotic that she was on.  She switched it and now no problem.  As for the diet issue, she told me that I could reintroduce her old food, because I was already feeding her a good food, but since she has had one attack and schnauzers are very prone to this disease, we should err on the side of caution and change her diet just in case.

    The vet said that often in these types of dogs an acute attack could lead to chronic development of the illness which could then lead to diabetes.  So basically she said no table food other than the plain cooked veggies that she got before with her food, her regular kibble (once she's better), and very low-fat treats.  None of the fatty dog treats.  Since she is very treat oriented, I needed some ideas.

    I really appreciate it!  I'm so thankful that she is feeling better.  At this point I would cook her every meal if that's what it takes for this to not happen again. [:)]
     
    ETA: I forgot...the vet also said no more raw chicken wings. [:-]  My baby is NOT going to be happy about that...
    • Gold Top Dog
    Just curious, how big was the bully stick and what does your dog weigh??
    • Gold Top Dog
    I ditto Willow's question .....