dry roast pork bones

    • Silver

    dry roast pork bones

    My dog won't eat rmb and raw meat.  He just sniffed it and went away.  I know rmb is good for teeth cleaning.  Can I use Ham Bones (dry roast pork bones) instead?  Will it do the teeth cleaning job?  If I soak the rmb in boiling water for a little while to get rid of the raw smell, and the bone won't be cooked.  Will it still have the cleaning function?  Your opinions are welcome and appreicated.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Try this - take a very small bone with meat, like a chicken wing with skin on  and lightly sear it in olive oil with a bit of garlic (a little butter - real butter if you've got it will help too - add right before you pull it out).  Don't cook the inside at all.  You are just browning the outside a little.  Make sure you leave the skin on - the carmelized fat drenches the raw meat and makes it irresistable!

    If  she accepts this, gradually decrease the amount of browning until she's used to the raw meat straight from the fridge. 

    The pork bone is probably cooked the worst possible way - slow and dry.  Brittleness is your enemy and the slower or drier the cooking method the more danger there is.  Pork is pretty soft even at its worst, so anyone who's gone ahead and fed cooked pork needn't feel too awful. 

    This is why the occaisional trash raiding after Kentucky fried chicken is not usually fatal to dogs - those are terrible bones but they are cooked very fast and moist.  Still, my vet said she has to do emergency surgery on trash raiders very regularly, unfortunately.  Most vets are bone haters for this reason, not really because they are in cahoots with the pet food companies.  [sm=sad.gif]
    • Gold Top Dog
    My dog wouldn't touch it at first either, so I ended up sitting down with her on the lawn outside with a chicken leg in my hand and slowly ripped off little chunks and hand fed them to her, praising her like heck when she took a piece.  At first she made some pretty funny faces and spat it out, but eventually she caught on and took them more willingly.  Now she'll take a whole leg from me with a little encouragement and bring it outside to chew on by herself in the grass. [:)]
    • Gold Top Dog
    I don't know,,,seems to me if my dog didn't want to eat raw stuff,,,,I would consider that to be that he is telling me something.
    • Gold Top Dog
    I'm with you, Dyan.  Maybe it's because my dad was one of those *you're going to eat it whether you like it or not even if you have to sit there all day and all night 'til it's gone* people [:D] but I've never tried to make a kid or a dog eat something they really seemed to dislike. There are too many other things out there equally as good that they would like.

    Joyce & Max
    • Gold Top Dog
    I agree with Dyan and Joyce.  Willow didn't like raw meat either.  So, I stopped trying, and it DID turn out she shouldn't be having it.

    Also, I'm no expert on this by any means but I think you are getting rmb and a recreational bone confused.  A recreational bone is the one they chew on for teeth but don't consume entirely.  It makes a difference when you're discussing bones and what you are going to use them for to use the right terminology so that the experts will be able to give you the correct advice. 

    Of course, I may be the one who is wrong. 
    • Gold Top Dog
    definitely do not feed a ham bone! super-dangerous. A raw pork femur (the same bone found in hams) is an excellent choice though, you can buy a cheap pork picnic butt, cut off most of the meat for your consumption, and toss the bone to the dogs.
    What types of RMBs have you tried? most dogs much prefer beef, lamb, and pork to chicken. Some dogs really like to let their bones "age" a bit before eating, which is super-gross to humans. These dogs usually will dig right in if you sear the meat- as in briefly touch to a hot pan- before offering. I think both aging and searing release smells dogs like.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Slight disagreement on the ham bone.  I eat ham on rare occassions, but I sure won't let my dogs have it with all the nitrates and stuff in it.
    • Silver
    Thank you for all your advices.  Now I know the ham bones are not good and not safe.  I wish my dog would take the rmb because I know about the good result on cleaning teeth.  For teeth cleaning, I have tried to give him the long pork rib bone with all the meat cut off.  For healthwise, I tried the raw frozen chicken meat from Natures Variety.  Although I really like my dog to eat raw meat, but I won't force him to eat something he won't like.  I will try the searing method with chicken wings.  But my most concern is the teeth cleaning.  Now I am using fingerbrush, dental wipes and liquid oral care.  My dog only let me brush the outsides of his teeth, there is no way to brush the insides of his teeth.  That's why I really want him to take rmb so bad.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Kibble manufacturers put stuff in kibble that is highly attractive to dogs.  God does not flavor raw meat with salt, sugar, sprayed on fat, or carmel flavorings.  Quick searing reproduces the carmelized flavoring and cooked fat that kibble fed dogs are often hooked on.  Plus it warms the outside - raw meat that was freshly killed or a carcass are room temp or above.  [;)

    I've raised three puppies and numerous rescues on raw with no problem.  On the "my dog won't eat it therefore it must be bad" theory.  If there were something intrinsincally wrong with raw some one of them would refuse it, yes?  But I've never had that happen - the puppies in particular dig in enthusiastically.   My new pup has had raw from day one - it's a delight to direct his urge to chew to his mealtime rmbs.  It makes him much less inclined to chew other things (this is a BC pup - one of nature's elemental destructive forces).

    Dogs are not discriminating in selecting foods that are good for them.  If you set a pan of antifreeze in front of them and a bowl of their favorite kibble I can guarantee you that they will go for the antifreeze with great enthusiasm.  [:-]  It is up to YOU to make food choices for your dog. 

    Make sure you have given the food you choose, a fair go, before deciding it's not going to work.  Food changes should always be made GRADUALLY - that's the number one mistake new raw feeders (and people switching to premium foods off the lesser grade) make.  Then digestive upset is interpreted as being the food's fault.
    • Gold Top Dog
    My dog only let me brush the outsides of his teeth, there is no way to brush the insides of his teeth. That's why I really want him to take rmb so bad.

     
     My vet said not to brush the inside of the teeth; I think it's because the tongue cleans the inside of a dog's teeth but I'm not sure.
    • Silver
    It's very interesting.  I've never heard of it.