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Lazlowe, I have a wonderful vet. Actually I feel comfortable going to any of the vets in the large practice we go to. All of them are nice and friendly. They always ask what we're feeding Scout. Its good for them to know,but they never try and force the food. They let you know its there and they leave it up to you. I wouldn't make a blanket statement like that. You absolutely should not say "all" people...blah, blah, blah....that would be assuming that all people think the same way, drive the same way, walk the same way...etc.... I can't blame you one bit for being offended.  Just wanted you to know that I do not think that about vets/techs!

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Don't ever expect the major companies to 'improve' the quality of their foods. It's all smoke and mirrors. Pretty pictures, fancy descriptions.

What you need to understand is.. THERE IS NO MONEY IN KEEPING OR MAKING YOUR PET HEALTHY.  This is precisely why the courses on Pet Nutrition that are taught in vet schools across the country are funded by and texts are written by persons affiliated with Purina, Hills and Iams. That is exactly WHY those three brands are PUSHED by vets. Yes.. they are scratching each other's backs and keeping one another in business.
Crappy food keeps your poor animal going to the vet for a slew of maladies including cancer, liver and kidney disease, etc. And the vets keep pushing these GARBAGE foods on the unsuspecting , uninformed, uneducated pet owner who takes their advice as gospel.
  Hopefully these people will all rot in hell for what they are knowingly doing to our beloved companions. How ANY of them sleep at night is beyond my comprehension.

You are one toxic chick, MOP.

My Sheltie died in January, and he was special to me beyond words. The vet tech who came to my house with the vet on Sander's last day made me a cast of Sander's paw-print that she took when they brought his body back to the clinic for the cremation, and she fired it and glazed it and put "from your friends at XXXX" on the back.

The entire staff sent me a condolence card signed by each of the three vets and every single one of the 15 vet techs and receptionists. The clinic also made a donation in Sander's name to the U of I Companion Animal Fund.

My vet prescribes raw food and has continued his education over the years, getting certified in acupuncture and chiropractic; he now teaches chiro courses at a holistic vet hospital two hours from here.

You have NO idea what you're talking about when you spew such hatred, but it's a really distasteful glimpse into your psyche. Try to spare us that in the future, 'kay? Thanks! []

ewin0210, That was really sweet of your tech to do that! I am glad to hear that you have such a great vet!

I'm not 'insinuating' anything. There is enough reading material out there to back this 'theory'. All you have to do is open your eyes and look for it. It's a no-brainer really. Do you honestly think that all vets are in their profession because of their "love for animals " ? That's a naive stance to take. There are many, like others in many professions who are 'in it for the money'. And there is ALOT of money to be made doling out prescriptions, pumping vaccines, charging for office visits, etc. Do you really think they're not getting kickbacks for pushing all those crap foods ?? Come on, get real. This is not the vet clinic from Mayberry RFD we're talking about here.

 
LOL!  "get real"?   I think that you should drink your own medicine in this case (PUN intended)
 
Your conspiracy theory is WAY over the top.  My Vet doesn't sell food - AT ALL and I don't live in Mayberry, I live in NYC...  I will not disagree with you concerning your opinion of the actual dog food companies or the essential brainwashing that likely happens in Vet School.  But YOU are the one who has been BRAINWASHED if you honestly believe that ALL vets are in bed with the dog food conglomerates.  

Most Vets, I believe are caring and well meaning. However, many know very little about nutrition. I don't think for one minute that they conspire with large dog food companies, i.e. Science Diet, to fool the public, but I feel that they as a whole know far less about dog nutrition than most of the posters to this group. For most here, this has become a passion and researching better foods, alternative feeding programs, raw diets. etc. has become a way of life. Most Vets, and this is only my opinion, don't take the time to do this and feel that there is little difference between dry foods, which they consider to be well-balanced. Just because they have a  DVM degree, doesn't mean that they don't need to be better educated in dog nutrition and the real differences in the products out there.

I've actually had excellent results with Purina One and Pro Plan, I have an allergy dog and the only food I have found that she doesn't itch on is there senstive skin formulas.  I have tried many of the premium brands, natura products, eagle pack, solid gold, natural balance, she has done better on the Purina products than any of the others. 

But YOU are the one who has been BRAINWASHED if you honestly believe that ALL vets are in bed with the dog food conglomerates.

 
I don't recall ANYWHERE saying " ALL " vets.  I may have said ALL uneducated vets, all ALL vets who know nothing about nutrition.  There are plenty of vets out there who know about nutrition and love animals.. they're called HOLISTIC VETS.

This is so disheartening that you would say this.

 
Well FYI this is NOT just my opinion. Any and ALL information I post on this site is from research...yeah, that's right... hours and hours of research , reading articles, writing to experts, talking with people. So every statement I make is just a repeat of a statement that has been made by someone, in another article, from an information site, etc.  So don't think I'm coming up w/any of this stuff on my own or that it's just my own opinion because it happens to be other people's opinions, facts or research .
   Google is a really wonderful tool. You all should try it sometime.

    Sharon, You don't need to be insulting," Google is a really wonderful tool. You should try it sometime." You didn't say "all vets", but you did say "this is exactly why these three brands are pushed by vets", which would be vets in general, right?
    Don't you know any vet that you can trust to have your pet's best interest at heart and who honestly wants your pet to be healthy?

Wow!!! What a harsh opinion of vets in general. My vets office has Science diet and now the other day I noticed they are carrying Purina veterinary care formulas, but they have NEVER tried to push any food on me. In fact, they are VERY pleased with what I feed my dog and the results I have gotten. He was about 30 pounds under weight when I got him. In no time at all, with the help of people on this forum, I got him on a good diet and he's right where he should be now and maintaining the perfect weight for him. My vet loves it!!!
 
I would be the perfect candidate for the vet to try to push a certain diet on if they really did make some sort of conspiratorial commission from those food companies. I have 2 dogs and 7 cats all under my vets care. I'm sure if they were going to push a diet on anyone for profit.. they would pick me. They don't even encourage me to feed the little samples that come in the new puppy pack they give, or new kitten pack. Those little packs are sponsored by Eukapuka and the only reason they give them to me is to have the big envelope to keep shot records in, plus they have Heart guard in them and tags to register my pets.. they never mention the food or the $25 worth of food coupons that come in each pack.
 
Instead they focus on what I bring them there for, give them affection up the wazoo, and tell me all the time how beautiful, soft and shiny they all are.
 
And now, for the shocking part of it all... although Boss eats Evo, and Grace gets Solid Gold.. my cats eat PURINA indoor formula!!! They love it, they're healthy, and they refuse to eat anything else. I wasted money to find that out and watched my cats all refuse to eat and lose weight. So, I support Purina.. there I said it!! []

My vets office has samples of Wellness.  They do feed SD to animals who are hospitalized overnite...yuck.  But, when Bandit (cat) was there for two nites, the vet walked next door to the kennel where my son works to pick up canned innova for him.  She feeds her own dogs Innova.  Why they feed SD to sick or recovering animals I'm not real sure, but I do know what they offer for SALE....and it's NOT SD except for the RX formulas.
 
So, if they are in bed with the food companies, someone forgot to tell THEM that....

I don't recall ANYWHERE saying " ALL " vets.  I may have said ALL uneducated vets, all ALL vets who know nothing about nutrition.  There are plenty of vets out there who know about nutrition and love animals.. they're called HOLISTIC VETS.

Again, nonsense. My vet is not a holistic vet. The two holistic vets I have been to have been inferior in their veterinary skills and one actually was dangerous to my animals.

You have no idea what you're talking about and your generalizations aren't even true. Your posts would be funny if they weren't so sad.

Any and ALL information I post on this site is from research...yeah, that's right... hours and hours of research , reading articles, writing to experts, talking with people. So every statement I make is just a repeat of a statement that has been made by someone, in another article, from an information site, etc. 

Research involves separating fact from fiction. You ought to try it sometime! []

So every statement I make is just a repeat of a statement that has been made by someone, in another article, from an information site, etc.

This goes back to my brainwashing comment. You're repeating things that are singularly focused on your opinion - supporting it without painting the full picture. We see what we want to see. If your research had included real-life experience with pet owners and their Vets (in addition to an OPEN mind on the subject - HA!) your conspiracy theory would fall apart. In 20 years - I have had exactly 1 vet suggest a particular food. He only did it once and it was in response to my boy having crystals in his bladder. If all these Vets that you speak of, are getting kick-backs from the food companies, then WHY don't they push the food??? And if they don't love animals, then WHY are they Vets??? It's certainly not to get rich, they just don't make that much money...

There are plenty of vets out there who know about nutrition and love animals.. they're called HOLISTIC VETS.

This is laughable.. right - only holistic vets love animals. [sm=crazy.gif]

While I agree that Sharon is being rather singularly minded on this topic, lets please all remember that this is a fresh clean board and keep the "stuff" to a non-personal level.  Please?