Royal Canin breed specific foods

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    Royal Canin breed specific foods

    Someone on the dachshund board I frequent asked about the breed specific Royal Canin for dachshunds and someone responded with the following.  What do you think?  Is it something to consider?  I currently feed Innova.
     
    I work for Royal Canin and thought I'd try to help answer some questions for you. First, I understand the concern about the breed specific diets being a marketing gimmick...it's a good question. When I first came to work for the company a few years back, it was one of my first questions. The more I learned about the research that went into each diet, the more that I understood that the foods are actually each formulated for the specificities of each breed. For example, the new Dachshund 28 diet is based on different research that we've done in reference to Dachshunds and their propensity to both gain weight and to develop joint problems (particularly in their vertebral column) due to their chondrodystrophic-type morphology (ie short bowed limbs and long backs). Dachsunds are by the far the most susceptible to disc problems in their spine. So, at Royal Canin, we wanted to address this the best we could from a nutritional standpoint. We want to achieve optimal hydration of cartilage through the synergistic action of glucosamine and chondroitin sulfate and also reduce the inflammatory response through omega 3 fatty acids. For their known weight issues, we increased the protein level for them, lowered the fat level, added CLA (conjugated linoleic acid) which helps to maintain lean muscle tissue at the expense of the fat reserves, and also supplemented the formula wiht L-carnititne which is a known amino acid that helps to "mobilize" fats for the purpose of more effecient metabolism. Finally, there are a lot of added anti-oxidants to help boost the immunity of the cells: Vitamine E, Vitamin C, Polyphenols. This is just a small list of several other things that this foods helps to accomplish.

    And, no, if you feed the Dachshund 28 to your Pug, nothing "bad" will happen. If your Pug could benefit from the formula, then there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. The only thing would be if your Pug needed to gain weight for example, as this is more of a restricted calorie diet: 317 kcal/cup.

    The general idea behind the breed specific diets is to try and help take the "guess work" out of having to mix and match different supplements and foods to accomplish one thing: a healthy dog. You could feed your dog a "low calorie" food, but perhaps it doesn't accomplish the joint support and anti-oxidant suppor that you'd like to have, so you'd have to supplement. We understand the "problems" that Dachshunds could possibly be faced with and we want to try and help "prevent" them for this specific breed.

    Hope that helps. If you have specific questions or would like me to mail you more information, just drop me a PM or email me at [email=kelcey.swyers@royalcanin.us]kelcey.swyers@royalcanin.us[/email]
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    I think it is worth it.  My pup is on Royal Canin and is doing better than he ever did on EVO, TO, Solid Gold, etc.  He has now been on the RC for about 3+ weeks.  I started a thread awhile back (titled "Royal Canin...") after a researcher from their company came and gave us nutrition students a seminar on their products.  I was convinced and very supportive of the research they provided (and I am a very big skeptic and asked about a billion questions, all answered to my liking).  I greatly respect their research, and the use of higher quality ingredients as opposed to their main competition, Science Diet and Eukanuba.  I definately think you should give it a try! 

    **I also know a dach breeder who feeds the RC babydog to the weaning puppies, RC puppy to the weaned puppies, and the RC dach formula to her adult/breeding dogs and they all look amazing and have no health problems and are in great body condition. (they are seen at the vet I work for) 
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    [color=black]I'm still not sold on their food at all. Below is their Shih Tzu formula. I could never in good conscience feed it to my dog. It looks full of low quality ingredients and potential allergens to me....[/color]

    Ingredients:
    Chicken meal, rice, brown rice, chicken fat (naturally preserved with mixed tocopherols, rosemary extract and citric acid), corn, chicken, wheat gluten, natural chicken flavor, beet pulp, cellulose, rice hulls, salmon oil, dried egg powder, potassium chloride, soya oil, DL-methionine, beet pulp, L-tyrosine, calcium carbonate, sodium tripolyphosphate, choline chloride, salt, taurine*, borage oil, Vitamins [dl-alpha tocopherol (source of vitamin E), inositol, niacin, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C*), d-calcium pantothenate, biotin, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), riboflavin (vitamin B2), thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), vitamin A acetate, folic acid, vitamin B12 supplement, vitamin D3 supplement], Trace Minerals [zinc proteinate, zinc oxide, ferrous sulfate, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate, copper sulfate, manganous oxide, sodium selenite, calcium iodate], glucosamine hydrochloride, marigold extract, chondroitin sulfate, green tea extract. 


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    RC is a decent food, but the ingredients do not justify the price tag.  RC is actually MORE expensive than Innova here.
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    I think overall there's a high degree of marketing gimmick involved, especially as they are not offering a super-premium food for the price tag.  However, I'll tell you that I had a Siamese cat that was losing weight on everything else and when I put her on the RC siamese formula in desperation, she muscled up and just glowed!  Unfortunately she turned out to be allergic to chicken but the RC was the food that made her the least sick until I cut out chicken.
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    I feed Royal Canin Natural Blend and think it is a great food. It has no corn or wheat in it. Cost per serving is fair, actually better than Innova around my area. I recommend the RC lines.
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    I definitely think the Natural Blend is their best formula and it's the only one I would feed my dog.
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    I was planning to rotate canidae with my current innova... every 4 mths.  I may look into this instead, to see how it goes.  I may be able to get it discounted if they sell it at Petsmart.  I'll also see what other dachsies had as feedback on the other bds. 
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    Go for it! It's been the best decision I have made regarding dog food for my pup [:D]

    I think after about 4 months I may rotate my RC with Solid Gold Wee Bit (the only one I haven't tried)....but I haven't decided since he has done so well on the RC.
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    Smilee...I think I have emailed you before from the RC discussion board and you even hooked me up with some good books!       I do think it's funny that someone who works for the company would be feeding other brands.
     
    I don't mind the vet formulas at all...but on that same note...I think the reps that come and talk to our hosp (a walth only distributor) are full of crap.  You ask them questions and they give you a bunch of "beat around the bush BS"....avoiding the real issue.     But for many animals this diet works wonders....I think I will stick to my new love...Innova or some other more natural and less processed blend.
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    Smilee...I think I have emailed you before from the RC discussion board and you even hooked me up with some good books!       I do think it's funny that someone who works for the company would be feeding other brands.

    I don't mind the vet formulas at all...but on that same note...I think the reps that come and talk to our hosp (a walth only distributor) are full of crap.  You ask them questions and they give you a bunch of "beat around the bush BS"....avoiding the real issue.     But for many animals this diet works wonders....I think I will stick to my new love...Innova or some other more natural and less processed blend.

     
    I don't think that was me... but I think I am going to stick with Innova and Canidae (if she likes that when I try it in a month or so).