impressed with Eukanuba

  Eukanuba is a good food and there are some members who feed it. Jessie had soft mushy stools on it and has small firm stools on Eagle Pack but she gets the Holistic foods not the original.

Some people really like Eukanuba, but I've had better results with EP Holistic. If you decide to try EP again I definitely recommend the holistic line rather than the original. Which holistic formula did you try that your dogs didn't like? Gingerbread (my picky one) seems to like the Duck Meal & Oatmeal best, followed closely by Chicken Meal & Rice.

And see, my one venture into EPH resulted in very large, mushy stools.  Yet mine did GREAT on Innova.
 
I think that the bottom line is that NO food is great for every single dog.  If I HAD to pick between Euk and Canidae, Canidae would win hands down.  But, that's because of my experience with the food.  EPG wouldn't be a choice for me, but again, that's from my own personal experience.  Soft and mushy just flat doesn't cut it with SIX large dogs.

My only beef with Eukanuba is the prominence of by-products as the main protein source.  Organs and byproducts should be in a smaller roportion than muscle meat.  Otherwise I would not at all be opposed to adding it to the rotation.  I like the fact that all of the protein is meat based (no grain gluten meals) and does not use chemical preservatives.

we'v tried the ep duck and oatmeal and actually it was just one dog who hated it and we tried the anchovy sardine one which I couldn't take the smell of and really they both were reluctant eaters on it.  They were gassy on the duck but not the fish one and had messy poop most of the time (I transitioned for 3 weeks) I thought maybe it was one of the holistic ingredients so we tried the premium version original and they do pretty good on it.  I may rotate with the Eukanuba Labrador although one of my dogs is not a lab but loved it and did well on it last week.  I think these breed specific foods may be a gimmick andt the ingredients look pretty good for any breed; 23% protein and 13% fat.

Eukanuba, is a pretty poor food. Grain heavy, filled with poor ingredients, and it is like feeding your dog a diet of fast food.  Look at some of the good brands like:

Canidae,
EVO
Natural Balance
Timberwolf
Innova

Technically, the Eagle Pack Original (ingredients below) is about the same quality wise as Eukanuba Labrador.
Eagle Pack Original Adult:
Pork Meal, Ground Yellow Corn, Ground Brown Rice, Ground White Rice, Chicken Meal, Chicken Fat (Preserved With Natural Mixed Tocopherols), Dried Beet Pulp, Anchovy & Sardine Meals, Oatmeal, Brewers Dried Yeast, Flaxseed, Wheat Germ Meal, Dried Egg Product, Salt, Potassium Chloride, Carrots, Peas, Yucca Schidigera Extract, DL-Methionine, Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, d-Pantothenic Acid, Niacin Supplement, Choline Chloride, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Ascorbic Acid, Biotin, Lecithin, Rosemary Extract, Inositol, Kelp, Polysaccharide Complexes Of Zinc, Iron, Manganese, Copper and Cobalt, Potassium Iodate, Sodium Selenite, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Lactobacillus casei, Enterococcus faecium, B. subtilus, Bacillus licheniformis, Bacillus coagulins, Aspergillus oryzae, and Aspergillus niger.

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Chicken, Corn Meal, Ground Whole Grain Sorghum, Ground Whole Grain Barley, Chicken By-Product Meal (Natural source of Chondroitin Sulfate and Glucosamine), Fish meal, Natural Chicken Flavor, Dried Beet Pulp (sugar removed), Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Dried Egg Product, Brewers Dried Yeast, Potassium Chloride, Calcium Carbonate, Salt, Flax Meal, Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid, Beta-Carotene, Vitamin A Acetate, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate (source of Vitamin B1), Niacin, Riboflavin Supplement (source of Vitamin B2), Inositol, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of Vitamin B6), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid), Sodium Hexametaphosphate, Fish Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Dicalcium Phosphate, Choline Chloride, Minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Potassium Iodide, Cobalt Carbonate), DL-Methionine, Dried Chicken Cartilage (Natural source of Chondroitin Sulfate and Glucosamine), L-Carnitine, Rosemary Extract.

On the other hand, Eagle Pack Holistic formulas are far, far better than Eukanuba anything.  But Eukanuba is a decent brand, use what works as long as it isn't absolutly horrible.
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ORIGINAL: jojo the pogo

Technically, the Eagle Pack Original (ingredients below) is about the same quality wise as Eukanuba Labrador.
Eagle Pack Original Adult:
Pork Meal, Ground Yellow Corn, Ground Brown Rice, Ground White Rice, Chicken Meal, Chicken Fat (Preserved With Natural Mixed Tocopherols), Dried Beet Pulp, Anchovy & Sardine Meals, Oatmeal, Brewers Dried Yeast, Flaxseed, Wheat Germ Meal, Dried Egg Product, Salt, Potassium Chloride, Carrots, Peas, Yucca Schidigera Extract, DL-Methionine, Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, d-Pantothenic Acid, Niacin Supplement, Choline Chloride, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Ascorbic Acid, Biotin, Lecithin, Rosemary Extract, Inositol, Kelp, Polysaccharide Complexes Of Zinc, Iron, Manganese, Copper and Cobalt, Potassium Iodate, Sodium Selenite, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Lactobacillus casei, Enterococcus faecium, B. subtilus, Bacillus licheniformis, Bacillus coagulins, Aspergillus oryzae, and Aspergillus niger.

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Chicken, Corn Meal, Ground Whole Grain Sorghum, Ground Whole Grain Barley, Chicken By-Product Meal (Natural source of Chondroitin Sulfate and Glucosamine), Fish meal, Natural Chicken Flavor, Dried Beet Pulp (sugar removed), Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Dried Egg Product, Brewers Dried Yeast, Potassium Chloride, Calcium Carbonate, Salt, Flax Meal, Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid, Beta-Carotene, Vitamin A Acetate, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate (source of Vitamin B1), Niacin, Riboflavin Supplement (source of Vitamin B2), Inositol, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of Vitamin B6), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid), Sodium Hexametaphosphate, Fish Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Dicalcium Phosphate, Choline Chloride, Minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Potassium Iodide, Cobalt Carbonate), DL-Methionine, Dried Chicken Cartilage (Natural source of Chondroitin Sulfate and Glucosamine), L-Carnitine, Rosemary Extract.

On the other hand, Eagle Pack Holistic formulas are far, far better than Eukanuba anything.  But Eukanuba is a decent brand, use what works as long as it isn't absolutly horrible.
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Grain and chicken by-products...... not good...

ORIGINAL: Bobsk8

Grain and chicken by-products...... not good...

 Eagle pack is better is a bit better because it has meat meals before the grains instead of meat, but if this particular dog does better on Eukanuba, then the Eukanuba IS better for THIS dog.

As for by-products and grain being not good in general, thats a matter of opinion...

On the Euk Lab just going on week 2, their coat and poop never looked better.  Misskiwi is right, it works for some.

Weve had dogs on Euk for years now and i love the results. Right now i wouldnt go with anythig else

While Euk's ingredient list may never win in a dog food "bench show," I've ALWAYS been happy with the real-life performance of Euk. These guys actually test their foods, do studies, and are generally at the front-line when it comes to honest-to-goodness scientifically-based nutritional research. They actually test their foods rather than assuming they're better because the ingredients "look" better. They were balancing Omega 6 & 3 fatty acids and formulating high protein, low calcium large breed puppy foods before many of the ultra-premium foods on the market now even existed. I love how many of these newer foods claim they'll add years to your dog's life, yet many haven't even been around as long as my last dog!

I feed Canidae now because I get slightly better results for slightly less money. My sister still feeds Euk to her crew afteer trying everything from Steve's Real Food to Innova. In the end, Euk has always been the best for her dogs in perforfamance and availablity. But I would feed Euk again with no qualms. And if I needed a veterinary diet, I'd feed Euk WAY before I'd feed Science Diet.

ORIGINAL: jenhuedepohl

While Euk's ingredient list may never win in a dog food "bench show," I've ALWAYS been happy with the real-life performance of Euk. These guys actually test their foods, do studies, and are generally at the front-line when it comes to honest-to-goodness scientifically-based nutritional research. They actually test their foods rather than assuming they're better because the ingredients "look" better. They were balancing Omega 6 & 3 fatty acids and formulating high protein, low calcium large breed puppy foods before many of the ultra-premium foods on the market now even existed. I love how many of these newer foods claim they'll add years to your dog's life, yet many haven't even been around as long as my last dog!

Just to be fair, I believe that Eagle Pack does actually test their foods as well.....

ORIGINAL: sillysally

Just to be fair, I believe that Eagle Pack does actually test their foods as well.....

 
So does Natura (Innova & California Natural) - they have their own 11,000 square foot research and testing facility