NUTRO food contamination

  Tomorrow is my oldest grandaughter's birthday; she'll be 13. One of my sons has been going with a wonderful girl for seven years now, and they were officially engaged last summer, but haven't set a date.  
    I always cook bacon till it's crisp too.
   Glenda, I know you feed your dogs raw about once a week. Do they ever have diarrhea the day after being fed raw like Jessie's had?
 
   " It was reported on another board that the poster had contacted the company and they said they had not had any more reports of illness.  But test results are not in yet.  And as I said, this very well could be a case of tampering in the store.  People are so sick today I wouldn't put it past them. "
 
  Or someone could have thrown some poisonous food over the fence. I've seen that happen before too. How awful to find glass in baby food! Do they know if it was an error in manufacturing or if there was tampering by someone?

I'm wondering if it's just BEEF that makes your dog have mucousy stools. I don't feed my dogs any beef except organs. No beef muscle meat at all.  The only muscle meat they get is chicken, turkey, lamb or bison .  Everything else is organ meat.  I think their stools are a bit looser on days I raw feed or homecook than the stools they get w/kibble

 I had been feeding her some raw meat for about a month when she had the mucousy soft stool followed by diarrhea the first time, and she had been fed beef several times during that period with no problems. She is allergic to chicken. The second time I tried raw meat, which was last week, she had the same stools the day after I had started feeding raw. It was beef both times. Is there a reason why you don't feed beef muscle meat? Have you heard about dogs having problems with it? I thought that dogs should be fed mostly muscle meat and only a small amount of organs.

It was headlines in our paper and then not another word.  But i don't expect much from the Corpus Christi paper.  You start reading a story and they tell you to go to A5, you go there and can't find the rest of the story.  So you hunt and then you find it on A8.  They are always having to correct errors--John P. Jones died, next day it was Jane P. Jones, (correction.).  But with it being in different cities, I think it happend at the factory. 

I don't know why , I just don't feed them beef unless it's on a bone... like oxtails or short ribs.  They get liver once a week and canned tripe in their food every day ( just a few teaspoons mixed in to coat the kibble ). They get fish 2x/wk , some canned ( salmon or mackeral ) or fresh ( salmon, trout or whiting ).  Sometimes they get ground turkey or ground bison.  They get chicken wings, leg quarters, turkey wings or lamb ribs once or twice a week and a marrow bone once a week.  I braise the liver and fish because they don't care for it raw and I cook ground meat because they don't care for that raw either. Everything else they get raw including lots of veggies, fruits and dairy, potatoes and rice I cook of course. It's really hard for me to find organ meats besides beef liver, chicken liver and gizzards.  One dog is allergic to chicken.
    I haven't heard anything about beef. I guess it's maybe because when I ate meat I was never a big red meat eater. I don't feed the dogs pork either.

I can honestly saw I've never had a problem with raw with my dogs, be it pork, beef, chicken or turkey.  The stools are always smaller and firmer, but that's likely because I give them the BONES too.

I guess I'm not in the same old fart league. Sandra, you're old enough to be my mother. My mother, born Aug. 22, 1945, left high school and got married in 1963. I was born Mar. 19, 1964. So. I'm over the hill but I'm further up the slippery slope.
 
HEB is big mainly in south Texas, from what I've seen.

Well, Conroe and Montgomery, two cities linked to the owner, depending on which site you visit, are around Houston.

Yikes Ron!! Doncha know to NEVER tell a lady that she's old enough to be your MOTHER??????  It's ok if WE say it.......

Given all the stuff you've been through in your life, I think we could make you an honorary member of the "old farts" club.

I know. If my mother was here, she would literally slap me for suggesting a lady is old.
 
The baby boomer generation technically runs from 1944 to 1964. Since my mother had me when she was 18, I am technically a baby boomer.

I noticed in the OP, and I'm sure how important this is, that both dogs did not seize at the same time. The old boxer seized within 3 hours of eating on a Friday. The mini-schnauzer seized the following Monday morning.

Yeah, but just by the skin of your teeth!!

Age is a good thing. Some mistakes I'm just too tired or busy to make any more.
 

Hi,
My name is Kimli, I joined this group for the info and for wanting to tell my story regarding Nutro. I do not know whether the lady from Texas's story is true or not, but this one is and you can email me for my information if you want it.

I own a Cavalier named Ariel, 22 months, who is the cutest dog, a Birman cat called Floyd who must be 7 by now and we hope to become the new owners of a female Samoyed around August, her Mama is still pregnant.

Late last year, our cat Floyd, got sick he was throwing up long strings of dribble. We watched him and tried to leave him in the quiet so he could recover. He didn't. Well, we thought he was feeling better but  no.....next day he was worse. Dribble sick, head wonky and trouble walking. Flew to the vets.... Vet (very good vet at that) said he thought Flyod had a thiamine deficiency. ??? I thought.... he said it was caused by a lack of  Vitamin B.  He asked what we fed the cat, dry we answered. In the 20 odd years I've had cats we've fed mostly dry. Different brands but still dry. The vet said it was not unusual in cats that different bags of cat foods can have varying amounts of B's in them. B's are killed off by cooking, so they are replaced in dry foods by the manufacturers. Often the actual amounts varies. It took 3 days in vet hospital and 3 Vit. B injections before Floyd was much better and able to come home. He was still wonky in the legs and very thin. Thinking I had had Floyd on (good brand -good as you can get) supermarket cat food which sometimes happens if I inadvertently forget to buy it or worse run out of money before pay day. I stopped by the (different) vets and bought a bag of the proper food so it didn't happen again. I opened it up and went to throw out the stuff in the container when I realised that the food that was in the sealed container was in fact Nutro. I could not believe it. I thought I had carefully researched the type of pet food for the animals and that Nutro was terrific. I was literally shocked when I saw that the food that made Floyd so ill was the good Nutro I was recommending to anyone that stood still long enough to listen!

Floyd got very thin, more research later and I started feeding him and the dog on Royal Canin, they both vastly prefer the taste of the RC to Nutro and Floyd's health and weight have improved on the R. Canin. Ariel is doing very well on it also.

I did in fact email Nutro and told them the story, I would love to say I got a sympathetic response and even some advice. What I got was silence.  Not a word.

So... there you have it. I no longer use it and never will again. As I said, I do not know the truth about the Texas story, but I know the truth about mine. This is TRUE.

Sorry this is so long for a first post and all,
Kim
Australia
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So, the problem with your cat was inappropriate nutrient balance, rather than  poisoned or tainted food. I'm glad you were able to figure it out.
 
I had a north american short hair tabby. For 16 years, she ate DeliCat by Purina. Then she had diminished kidneys. So the vet had me feed her Purina NF, a low animal-protein formula and she lasted another year. The diminished kidneys were from being past ancient for her breed. If I were 120 years old, I think some parts of me wouldn't work so well anymore. As long as I can stil type, though, heh heh.