What do you think of Bakers Compleate?

Well a lot of people on this board like to follow the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" approach to dog food. If your dogs do well on it, then stick with it. However......look at those ingredients!! (taken from a bakers complete formula)

Cereals, Meat and animal derivatives (minimum 4% chicken and minimum 4% fresh meat in the soft moist kernel), Vegetable protein extracts, Derivatives of vegetable origin (1.1% charcoal in the dark brown kernel), Oils and fats, Various sugars, Minerals, Yeasts, Vegetables (minimum 4% vegetables in the green kernel). Contains EC permitted colourants, antioxidants and preservatives.

I personally wouldn't feed this!!! It just doesn't seem very healthy to me. If money is an issue, then there are many high quality dog foods out there at a more affordable price. I don't live in the UK so I don't know whats over there, but I'm sure someone else will come along with suggestions if you want to switch foods[]

I don't know anything about how to interpret European labels. I do know that their actual ingredient standards are much stricter than ours and products may not be as bad as they appear. That said, I think in any country meat should be the first ingredient in a food.

I think Bakers is comparable to our beneful,but 50 times worse

Seriously kaytee,if you cant afford to feed little dogs who dont eat that much any way foods any better than Bakers then i would seriously look into finding a way,by cutting back in some way on "your" weekly expenditures so they can eat a healthier food.In my opinion you are doing more harm than good in the long run,and your dogs will end up paying with their health [&:] Winalot is just as bad as Bakers sugar,filler,cereal laden junk food for dogs [&o]

Here are some of my recommendations-


Timberwolforganics and Orijen (probably way out of your priceline,not sure about their prices) [linkhttp://tproxy.guardster.com/proxy.php/4d8b490a803000035f64539783f819d12eb6b8a4d84ad1d7ab07c143600626b29452be7329850ec8390be58635684e51288a63869a7c31fa0db436fa64c4e3f8e5171996e38ba363c07b86decffe81de921ac9afa3d933178bb269ebea06]http://www.zooplus.co.uk/shop/dogs/dry_dog_food/timberwolf/14832[/link]

Arden Grange(better than JWB IMO) [linkhttp://tproxy.guardster.com/proxy.php/4d8a410e80200cc05ee436affe06070c42d80860f8be78f3d043d3d249441f69ce7621aeb58093abcd9b0c6083a7204b3eeeac68318e3c036cc7dfeeba0f2adda9ec64f505]http://www.ardengrange.com [/link]

JWB [linkhttp://tproxy.guardster.com/proxy.php/333034303000e18c9292022b7dfdf2f272bde48cc4dc8294fcf462bde47cbdd26cfde4f44cdda4cc3cfdfcb4b4e2cc92543d205f1f4979796a4e4e526a4e7e596a0a440300]http://www.wellbeloved.co.uk[/link]

Berrimans [linkberrimans.net[/link]>http://tproxy.guardster.com/proxy.php/333034303000e18c9292022b7dfdf2f272bde48cc4dc8294fcf462bde47cbdd26cfde4f44cdda4cc3cfdfcb4b4e2cc92543d205f1f4979526a5151666e625eb15e5e6a0900]http://www.berrimans.net[/link]

Wafcol [linkhttp://tproxy.guardster.com/proxy.php/333034303000e18c9292022b7dfdf2f272bde48cc4dc8294fcf462bde47cbdd26cfde4f44cdda4cc3cfdfcb4b4e2cc92543d205f1f497979625a727e0e442d00]http://www.wafcol.co.uk[/link]

Naturediethttp://www.naturediet.co.uk

ORIGINAL: Edie

I think Bakers is comparable to our beneful,but 50 times worse

Seriously kaytee,if you cant afford to feed little dogs who dont eat that much any way foods any better than Bakers then i would seriously look into finding a way,by cutting back in some way on "your" weekly expenditures so they can eat a healthier food.In my opinion you are doing more harm than good in the long run,and your dogs will end up paying with their health [&:] Winalot is just as bad as Bakers sugar,filler,cereal laden junk food for dogs [&o]

Here are some of my recommendations-


Timberwolforganics and Orijen (probably way out of your priceline,not sure about their prices) [linkhttp://tproxy.guardster.com/proxy.php/4d8b490a803000035f64539783f819d12eb6b8a4d84ad1d7ab07c143600626b29452be7329850ec8390be58635684e51288a63869a7c31fa0db436fa64c4e3f8e5171996e38ba363c07b86decffe81de921ac9afa3d933178bb269ebea06]http://www.zooplus.co.uk/shop/dogs/dry_dog_food/timberwolf/14832[/link]

Arden Grange(better than JWB IMO) [linkhttp://tproxy.guardster.com/proxy.php/4d8a410e80200cc05ee436affe06070c42d80860f8be78f3d043d3d249441f69ce7621aeb58093abcd9b0c6083a7204b3eeeac68318e3c036cc7dfeeba0f2adda9ec64f505]http://www.ardengrange.com [/link]

JWB [linkhttp://tproxy.guardster.com/proxy.php/333034303000e18c9292022b7dfdf2f272bde48cc4dc8294fcf462bde47cbdd26cfde4f44cdda4cc3cfdfcb4b4e2cc92543d205f1f4979796a4e4e526a4e7e596a0a440300]http://www.wellbeloved.co.uk[/link]

Berrimans [linkberrimans.net[/link]>http://tproxy.guardster.com/proxy.php/333034303000e18c9292022b7dfdf2f272bde48cc4dc8294fcf462bde47cbdd26cfde4f44cdda4cc3cfdfcb4b4e2cc92543d205f1f4979526a5151666e625eb15e5e6a0900]http://www.berrimans.net[/link]

Wafcol [linkhttp://tproxy.guardster.com/proxy.php/333034303000e18c9292022b7dfdf2f272bde48cc4dc8294fcf462bde47cbdd26cfde4f44cdda4cc3cfdfcb4b4e2cc92543d205f1f497979625a727e0e442d00]http://www.wafcol.co.uk[/link]

Naturediet [linkhttp://www.naturediet.co.uk]http://www.naturediet.co.uk[/link]

I do appreciate your help but I feel offended by what you say [&o] to be totally fair maybe you miss understood what I said, I spend more on the dogs then myself with the £80 a month insurance e.t.c I only mentioned James wellbeloved was expensive as one £8 bag would last me a week, I guess I find it harder as one of my cavaliers has a £10 vet perscribed food plus tins at £1.58 a tin and I didnt expect her to have so many other health problems too the poor little girl [&o]
On the other hand I appreciate your help and I did ask for advice[8|]
Bakers is one of the best known foods over in the UK too so I figured it couldn't be that bad...I WILL look into other options. take care xxx
PS MY DOGS ALWAYS COME FIRST and ALWAYS WILL forgive me If I seem to go with what I felt was ok..besides If I dont ask how would I ever find out []

ORIGINAL: Edie

I think Bakers is comparable to our beneful,but 50 times worse

Seriously kaytee,if you cant afford to feed little dogs who dont eat that much any way foods any better than Bakers then i would seriously look into finding a way,by cutting back in some way on "your" weekly expenditures so they can eat a healthier food.In my opinion you are doing more harm than good in the long run,and your dogs will end up paying with their health [&:] Winalot is just as bad as Bakers sugar,filler,cereal laden junk food for dogs [&o]

Here are some of my recommendations-


Timberwolforganics and Orijen (probably way out of your priceline,not sure about their prices) [linkhttp://tproxy.guardster.com/proxy.php/4d8b490a803000035f64539783f819d12eb6b8a4d84ad1d7ab07c143600626b29452be7329850ec8390be58635684e51288a63869a7c31fa0db436fa64c4e3f8e5171996e38ba363c07b86decffe81de921ac9afa3d933178bb269ebea06]http://www.zooplus.co.uk/shop/dogs/dry_dog_food/timberwolf/14832[/link]

Arden Grange(better than JWB IMO) [linkhttp://tproxy.guardster.com/proxy.php/4d8a410e80200cc05ee436affe06070c42d80860f8be78f3d043d3d249441f69ce7621aeb58093abcd9b0c6083a7204b3eeeac68318e3c036cc7dfeeba0f2adda9ec64f505]http://www.ardengrange.com [/link]

JWB [linkhttp://tproxy.guardster.com/proxy.php/333034303000e18c9292022b7dfdf2f272bde48cc4dc8294fcf462bde47cbdd26cfde4f44cdda4cc3cfdfcb4b4e2cc92543d205f1f4979796a4e4e526a4e7e596a0a440300]http://www.wellbeloved.co.uk[/link]

Berrimans [linkberrimans.net[/link]>http://tproxy.guardster.com/proxy.php/333034303000e18c9292022b7dfdf2f272bde48cc4dc8294fcf462bde47cbdd26cfde4f44cdda4cc3cfdfcb4b4e2cc92543d205f1f4979526a5151666e625eb15e5e6a0900]http://www.berrimans.net[/link]

Wafcol [linkhttp://tproxy.guardster.com/proxy.php/333034303000e18c9292022b7dfdf2f272bde48cc4dc8294fcf462bde47cbdd26cfde4f44cdda4cc3cfdfcb4b4e2cc92543d205f1f497979625a727e0e442d00]http://www.wafcol.co.uk[/link]

Naturediethttp://www.naturediet.co.uk

You're always so wonderfully charming and convincing, Edie.[8|]

Chewbecca on a happier note your dogs are SO beautiful wow amazing [] xxx
Ps No I wasn't totally wowed by edie's comments, I guess kinda made me feel hurt as I dont want him to think I don't even care about my babies..Oh well [&o] xxxx
Ooops this picture was taken ages ago..who's gonna tell her she can't eat it no more....[:-]

ORIGINAL: kaytee576

Chewbecca on a happier note your dogs are SO beautiful wow amazing [] xxx

Thank you! hehehe, but it's only one dog, just several pics of her.
Her name is Ella. Ella Fitzgerald.

You're always so wonderfully charming and convincing, Edie.

Thanks []

And your comments are always so nice and friendly,so i guess we are even []

Kaytee, in the US, the best known foods are among the least healthy. It's unfortunate, but even the food that most vets reccomend (Science Diet) is pretty low quality. It's definitely worth some looking into. I wouldn't want to feed a food with colorants and sugars in it. That sounds too much like candy for dinner, to me[]

Eaglepack is also available in the UK -http://postalpetsproducts.co.uk/

This thread is NOT going to go this way.  Some people have strong opinions and haven't learned to express them in a gentle manner. That person knows who they are.  I think I can speak for everyone when I ask that you find a nicer way to slap someone.
 
I know nothing about the foods available   in the UK, but, here, often the foods that seem costlier at first glance, actually end up being less expensive because you don't need to feed near as much.  The better quality foods actually contain more useable nutrition, higher kcals, and require LESS to nourish your dog.
 
I hope you'll do some checking, and it sounds like your sister could be a good guide.

I have tried Bakers in the past but switched because they didn't do well on it.... and when I learned a bit more about nutrition and took another look at that label it was easy to see why and at that point I would have switched anyway, even if they had appeared to be healthy!  And that is saying a lot because I don't like to muck about with their diet; if they seem healthy as they are I keep feeding as I am.
 
And that's it, I'm bowing out of this thread (and back out of this entire section) because I find it's just too volatile for little me!

Kaytee, here is a link to a UK dog board that might be more helpful:
 
[linkhttp://www.champdogsforum.co.uk/cgi-bin/board/forum_show.pl?bid=21#bid21]http://www.champdogsforum.co.uk/cgi-bin/board/forum_show.pl?bid=21#bid21[/link]
 
Most people on this board don't have much experience with food available in the UK.  I understand that Timberwolf Organics is available there now.  I would suggest you look into that.
 
I think, if you do a search for "bakers" on the UK board you will find that it is not held in especially high regard.

THANKS all for your help, Just wanted you to know my doggies are now on James wellbeloved I hope you will all agree this was for the best! thanks again xxx
PS Sorry for the trouble this question may have caused [:-] xxx