Timberwolf Organics - Problems

    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: Boxermom4

    come on, what are they supposed to be perfect in every way??


    Of course no one expects a company to be perfect in every way every time, but it isn't unreasonable to expect that a company not have an excessive number of issues.
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    For those of you who have been following the Iodine thread on Our Dogs Online, I have posted that information. I will post it here (although unreleated) because I saw it in an earlier post.

    The Iodine content is 2.5mg/kg as fed, and 2.7mg/kg dry matter.

    Thanks!

    Chris P.
    TWO
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    Chris...

    I appreciate your response about not stating where the food is made. Doesn't make a lick of sense why TWO is so secretive, but certainly you are only doing what you can do. I had written you an email voicing my concerns and hadn't heard, but your response was very appreciated.

    Here is another question that I was wondering about. "Timberwolf Organics", but my understanding it isn't truely "Organic". It may be semantics, but wondering why. It does make things confusing.

    Thanks!
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    Enough.......... For me anyway, it gets old, real quick.
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    thank you all for the info. it's nice to know the good and the bad about a company that i might trust my pets life with. for now i won't be touching TO, but i will keep an eye on it to see if some of their problems are resolved
    • Gold Top Dog
    boxermom, i'm sorry you think it's getting old, but i find it interesting and helpful. there has not been a question or concern posted that wasn't valid
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    boxermom, i'm sorry you think it's getting old, but i find it interesting and helpful. there has not been a question or concern posted that wasn't valid


    I think the point was that that issue has been brought up many, many times in several threads before. I don't see any reason for bringing the same thing up over and over again. Of course there is no problem with discussing issues, and bringing things to light. I myself have brought up the "organic" in the TWO name in reference to a different issue. Its like beating a dead horse, this thread has been reduced to hysteria IMO.
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    ORIGINAL: ottoluv

    I think the point was that that issue has been brought up many, many times in several threads before


    That poster is new, and so is the TO rep.
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    LOL Now these little comments are starting to remind me of junior school [sm=rofl.gif]

    FWIW i too am starting to go numb to all of these "lets bash TO" threads.

    An idea perhaps... Why doesnt someone start just ONE thread and put all of their opinions onto that?
     And while we are at it why dont we do the same with the tainted food recall topics,instead of 50 threads all about pretty much the same thing popping up every 2 minutes.
    • Gold Top Dog
    As you can see, I've done a little editing here and I will do more if the tone doesn't change and quickly.
     
    This IS the thread to post comments and concerns about TWO.  As far as I know, it's the only one going at this point.  This thread was started as an offshoot of another that I closed due to it having NO topic for us to remain on.
     
    As with ANY food, some folks love it and have had no issues at all, and others have some concerns.  This is nothing new.  And the entire purpose of this thread, as I see it, was to discuss the concerns with TWO, provide Chris with some actual "real life" feedback, and perhaps give him the opportunity to address those concerns.  Those who really LIKE TWO are welcome to post their experiences and those who have questions and/or concerns are welcome to post those.  Those who have tried and rejected TWO are also welcome to post.
     
    But ALL will post respectfully of others or the thread will be locked.
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    Well,  alright, I'll post to keep things on-topic.
     
    First, so that I don't forget:  Meat rolls sound great, but I worry about how they are preserved.  I think that they must be irridated or some other harsh chemical in them in order for them to be shelf stable.  The only way around that is to have something that is frozen / can be refridgerated in sections ---- but that requires a freezer at the point of selling and unless the dog store already sells NV frozen patties, then I don't see this being an option.
     
    I honestly don't see a funcitonal, cost affortable way to do meat rolls that don't have harsh preservatives / been smoked / irridated or whatever.  I guess out of all these choices, smoking would be best - but smoking produces alot of carcinagens, so it sure wouldn't be a food to give often.
     
    Maybe there is something I am missing in understanding how meat rolls are preserved...............
     
     
    OK, my TWO story.  It was the ONLY kibble that I ever used that was good for my allergy guys.  Turns out that was b/c I happened to order varieties that did not have rice in them.    However, after being on them for over a month, they still had such soft poops that I would have to clean them up after walking them.   Then all the other stories came out about the different bags / kibbles problems.   So, despite that being the only kibble that worked for our food allergies, I was too scared to use them again.
     
    Now, now I know more than I did back then - 2 years ago.  I know now that I could add in other stuff to their bowls and help with the poops.  I didnt' know enough back them to realize that I could tweak their food to make it work better for them.    But, even so, I'm not sure I would have done that.
     
    TWO is in a niche - they cater to ;people who are ultra concered about their dog's health and their food.  Because of this, these people have a higher set of standards and demand more and are just "pickier".  Things that wouldn't bother the average joe picking up chow-chow is going to make a huge difference to the people buying TWO.
     
    Selling in a niche market means catering to a more food educated people, who are naturally going to be more demanding about all the little details.  
     
    So, whether or not the quality of the food changed, it was enough of a concern for me to not order TWO again with the customer service / bag changing issues.  That is something considering it was the first food I had found that had not made worse my guys food allergies.  So, yeah, I'm waaaay picky.
     
    On another note:  I don't know whether the owner hired Chris to go in depth this much, to be active in putting out the fires, and to be a new front person showing good customer support   OR  if the owner just doesn't have a clue, and got really lucky.
     
    Either way, I have to be impressed with someone - from any food company - that comes on and is willing to listen to people "bitch" and still be nice in return.   Chris isn't the only one this has happened to......I think people get so frustrated with a situation, don't have an "out" for it with the company that has upset them, and it builds.
     
    I realize that many people would think that a food representative came one just to promote their product b/c of the recent scares.  I don't think that is the case with the names we are familiar with.  The thing is, TWO, EP, etc. are all companies that people on this forum have contacted---so I see that as a resonable route / reason why the reps would come on here.   And, gee, getting bashed at isn't any fun for anyone.  So, while I don't support the active promotion of a food company on this board, I think the things I have seen from the company names I already recognize has been done with fair intentions.  
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: sooner

    ORIGINAL: ottoluv

    I think the point was that that issue has been brought up many, many times in several threads before


    That poster is new, and so is the TO rep.


    And both have access to the search page.
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