Iams Kills

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    Iams Kills

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    I thought this was going to be about how the FOOD kills animals.
    I was going to almost agree on that.

    These two sites linked are kind of...well, two sides to every story and once you have both sides, it's difficult to side with one or the other.

    I'm kind of suspicious of a LOT of animals' rights activists as of lately.
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    I am pro-research. As long as research is carried out humanely I don't have the slightest problem with it. We put millions of animals to sleep each year simply because there are no homes for them. At least an animal that is put to sleep after a research project has done something good for science and for other animals. The animals we love and care for now would have a much more difficult life if it weren't for the animals used to develop rabies vaccines, hip replacements and the multitude of other medical & nutritional advances that wouldn't have been possible without animal research. Think about it. Would you want YOUR dog to be the first one to have a knee surgury or try a new medication? Would you have wanted to find out how excess calccium affects large breed puupy growth with YOUR dog?
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    Load of crap.

    Animal research saves more lives than 911....just remember that.
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    Agreed. And owning Beagles THE research breed that is a lot for me to say. I am also pro research.
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    ORIGINAL: papillon806

    Load of crap.


     
         You took the words right out of my mouth!!!!! I find the website iamskills.com to be utter BS - in fact, I automatically do not believe anything that originates from any animal rights source. Do you realize that many dog food companies test their formulas on dogs before they are released to the public? I don't see anything wrong or immoral with it whatsoever. Not just a food company testing their formula on dogs but also animal research in general. 
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    Marketing Department Hogwash... But, that's what they get paid for.....

     
    Cause Peta is a lot better.
     
    [linkhttp://www.courttv.com/news/2007/0118/PETA_ctv.html]http://www.courttv.com/news/2007/0118/PETA_ctv.html[/link]
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    The Iams company no longer does research OF ANY KIND and does not even do AAFCO testing of their foods because of that website and rumor mills like this one. This is a HUGE blow to quality control in dog food everywhere, and I'm horribly dissapointed when I see things like this still circulating, years after the fact.
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    ORIGINAL: Misskiwi67

    The Iams company no longer does research OF ANY KIND and does not even do AAFCO testing of their foods because of that website and rumor mills like this one. This is a HUGE blow to quality control in dog food everywhere, and I'm horribly dissapointed when I see things like this still circulating, years after the fact.

     
       No kidding? They no longer do feeding trials? Well, that would explain a lot [:@]
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    Iams® MiniChunks Dog Food is formulated to meet the nitritional levels established by the AAFCO Dog Food Nutrient Profile for Maintenance


    Yup, no kidding. All Iams formulas are now "formulated" to meet AAFCO standards.

    Customer wants can really push a company... more than people realize sometimes. Like someone in another forum so eloquently stated, dog foods aren't made for dogs anymore, they're made for owners.
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    Customer wants can really push a company... more than people realize sometimes. Like someone in another forum so eloquently stated, dog foods aren't made for dogs anymore, they're made for owners.


    THAT is the brightest most true statement that I have heard in a long long time!
    Just reading the nutrition threads right here on this forum (and I'm sure all others) prove that.  
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    ORIGINAL: Misskiwi67

    The Iams company no longer does research OF ANY KIND and does not even do AAFCO testing of their foods because of that website and rumor mills like this one. This is a HUGE blow to quality control in dog food everywhere, and I'm horribly dissapointed when I see things like this still circulating, years after the fact.


    So how do these other companies that make quality foods like Canidae, and Natural Balance, and Innova, manage to do it without the kind of research that Iams used to do before they got caught at it?  Seems like all this "research" wasn't to helpful anyway, because the quality of their food is pretty still pretty poor and with all the grains, probably would suit a cow or chickens more than a dog. .

    Chicken, Corn Meal, Ground Whole Grain Sorghum, Chicken By-Product Meal, Chicken Fat (Preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Dried Beet Pulp (Sugar Removed), Natural Chicken Flavor, Fish Meal, Potassium Chloride, Dried Egg Product, Brewers Dried Yeast, Salt, Flax Meal, Calcium Carbonate, Sodium Hexametaphosphate, Fish Oil (Preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Choline Chloride, Minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Potassium Iodide, Cobalt Carbonate), Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Acetate, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate (Source of Vitamin B1), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Niacin, Riboflavin Supplement (Source of Vitamin B2), Inositol, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Source of Vitamin B6), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid), DL-Methionine, Rosemary Extract


    [linkhttp://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=badingredients]http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=badingredients[/link]
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    People will most likely dissagree with me but I am not sure how I feel about animal testing. I tend to think it is wrong, and there must be some other way if some companies can not do animal reasearch.
    I read the information on my dogs arthritis medication and how they extreamly overdose dogs and their reactions, I am sorry but I do not find that right or humane. One of my aunts used to work for a drug company and she has seen awful things, and I will not support that. To me that is torturing an animal. '
    That is my opinion and many will dissagree, and that is totally fine. I just do not think it is right to cage up an animal and do all sorts of things to it.
    Maybe if I had a clearer understanding of what the guidlines are I would think differently, but for now I am against animal testing.