Approved WDJ Pet Food

Why did merrick score and not diamond (Merrick also had QC problems)  Diamond Naturals is a very good food.
 
And no Chicken Soup this year?[]

That really bothers me. I am not trying to start an argument here, but I want to state my opinion. Bil-Jac Select, Eukanuba, and Nutro are not bad foods

 
  I agree; just because a food isn't on their list doesn't make it bad. Jessie's been eating Sensible Choice Lamb and Rice (made by Royal Canin);   [linkhttp://www.sensiblechoice.com/SCHDLRA.HTM]http://www.sensiblechoice.com/SCHDLRA.HTM[/link]     for the last few months because I wanted to see if she developed another food allergy;  she had been on Eagle Pack Holistic foods. She's been doing great; her shiny coat has gotten shinier and she has fewer problems with her anal sacs. The Whole Dog Journal bases their selection on ingredients alone; not feeding trials or nutritional analysis by a lab.

And no Chicken Soup this year

it is on the list. i just looked at my copy of WDJ.

[font="trebuchet ms"][color="#000080"][size="2"]They strongly prefer dog foods that contain small amounts of grain or no grain at all.  NOT Approved Dog or Cat food!
Alpo Lamb Meal
Beneful
Bil-Jac Select
Cycle Adult Dog Food
Econ-o-Mets
Diamond
Eukanuba
Excel
Gravy Train
Iams
Kibbles n bits
Nutro -
Nature's Recipe Breed Specific Formulas
Nutra Nuggets
Pedigree
Purina Dog Chow
Purina One
Science Diet[/color][/size][/font]

no where in the WDJ article did i see this. in fact, Nutro's Ultra line is on the list. to quote the article, "This product is not new to our list, it just has a new name. Nutro has several lines of food; this the one we like best."

also, there are only about 43 foods listed in the O.P.'s approved list. there are closer to 60 different foods listed on the actual wdj list. wdj also states that the list is not comprised of all good foods on the market. it is merely a starting point to offer, what wdj considers, good comparisons to the foods you can find locally.

i thnk the O.P. should get all her facts straight before submitting such an offensive post. [sm=2cents.gif]

Sorry for not knowing! Yes I'm fairy new, I'm only known for my own edcuation basic on dog food!

I know my facts are right & done months worth of research!

ORIGINAL: ms_paws

Sorry for not knowing! Yes I'm fairy new, I'm only known for my own edcuation basic on dog food!

I know my facts are right & done months worth of research!

 
So what makes you an expert? Internet research? When it comes to food everybody is an expert. Feed what you can afford, feed what`s readily available and what works for you.
Even the "real experts" at the research facilities can`t agree.  

Most people on most of the dog boards I have visited are quick to say that if something works well for your dog, GO WITH IT. It's one of the more refreshing aspects of true dog lovers.

Interesting....Had that been posted in the first place, there would have been no need for my first post!  I hate when things are quoted with very important parts missing!

Yes, they always state something to the effect of that there are just so many foods they couldn't possibly include everything.  My personal thoughts on it are that there are a lot of different formulas put out by each company.  If you read the ingredient lists you might find some that are better that you could try that going just by brand name you might skip over.  I make my own decisions now that I'm familiar with ingredients and only use the WDJ as a guide or to find new names that I might not of heard of. 

Any dog can go life on a dog food no matter what, maybe you should be doing research on your part. Why do you think dogs die young, & get cancer & illness?

 
Actually, more because of over vaccinations and  esticides such as heartworm and flea preventatives than any of those food that WDJ didn't recommend.
 

Actually, more because of over vaccinations and pesticides such as heartworm and flea preventatives than any of those food that WDJ didn't recommend

 
I agree with Dyan.  And lets throw in air pollution and chemicals added to our drinking water  It isn't just one or the other, it is the combination.This will not apply to most here, but 7 1/2 years ago I stopped smoking and allowed no more smoking in our house (hubby happily agreed to smoke outside when home)  I was doing two packs a day of the 120 menthols.  I firmly believe that both KayCee and Honey are in better health for having never been around a smoke filled house, and that Buck, who will be 12 in 3 weeks has clearer lungs and better health because of no smoking in the house.
 
I also try to avoid flea treatment on my dogs as much as possible, they do not get Lymes nor Lepto as neither disease is down here, and  KayCee has not had annuals since she had a severe reaction 5 years ago, Buck gets them every 3 years.  We dod not know Honey's vax background as we adopted her, and she had had annauls every year sinde adoption, but that ended last year, she is on 3 year schedule now.  They do get monthly heartworm pills as we live on the Texas caost and have mosquitoes year round.I think these things are a big help in making them live longer.  The are fed, as most know, a food the WDJ does not approve of.  However, they do great on it, look great, get great physicals, etc.    As someone else pointed out, you feed what works best for your dog even if the experts don't agree--heck, they don't agree on anything anyway.

I'm with willowchow on this one...I use the WDJ as a guide, plus I LOVE their magazine.
 
I also believe that dog food is only a part of a balanced diet.  Fresh foods that are not devitalized through the cooking process are also a healthy part of my dogs diet.[]
 
Anyhow, discussing food should not turn into a fight.  We all have to do our own research and it's nice to have resources such as the WDJ to help us with ideas...the research is up to the individual.  I do what is right for my dogs...and another person will do what they feel is right for their dogs.[]  I personally listen to many eople and then form my own ideas of what I think is right for my dogs.    

ORIGINAL: dyan

Any dog can go life on a dog food no matter what, maybe you should be doing research on your part. Why do you think dogs die young, & get cancer & illness?

Actually, more because of over vaccinations and  esticides such as heartworm and flea preventatives than any of those food that WDJ didn't recommend.

Ditto ^^^^^

1.) We look for foods that contain a lot of high-quality animal proteins
2.) We reject any food containing meat by-products or poultry by-products

From what I understand they do no testing of any of the foods that they recommend, since they don't do any testing I am curious how they know that the foods they recommend use "high-quality animal proteins" since we know there are different grades of meals and unless you know specifically the quality of the meal used you have no way of knowing if it is of high quality, and they dismiss by-products and just like all other meals there are very high quality by-product meals and very low quality, and again without doing testing they can't possibly know the quality of these things, even the manufacturers test the products to insure they are getting the quality and digestibility that they are paying for,even they can't tell just by looking at it.

Abbysdad,i guess they go by what most of us can only go by when judging a food,and that is by the ingredient list.

If a food has mystery meats and by-products,then this is enough for me not to want to feed that food......

For my dogs at least,they have thrived on every food i have chosen for them.None of them contained by products or multiple grains in place of meat etc etc. So,for me,choosing a food based on it's ingredients works []

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Any dog can go life on a dog food no matter what, maybe you should be doing research on your part. Why do you think dogs die young, & get cancer & illness?



Actually, more because of over vaccinations and pesticides such as heartworm and flea preventatives than any of those food that WDJ didn't recommend.

That and HORRIBLE breeding practices that are becoming so common. Yuck!

Abbysdad,i guess they go by what most of us can only go by when judging a food,and that is by the ingredient list.

If a food has mystery meats and by-products,then this is enough for me not to want to feed that food......

That is the crux of the problem, this is what Timberwolf says about there beef and lamb meals, it sounds a lot like a by-product meal to me.

Our beef meal is made from not only the muscle tisue, but also meaty bones, spleens, kidneys, lungs, heart and other organs.


This is what Eukanuba says about it's chicken by-product meal.

Chicken by-products is a protein source that includes chicken muscle meat as well as chicken organ meat.


This is what Biljac says:

We use only fresh organ meat, which is naturally nutritious (see the ingredients list on our bags)

Yet TWO is good because it uses high quality meals and high protein sources and Euk and Bil-jac are bad cause they use by-products and poor protein sources and in reality no one can tell which of these protein sources is better without testing them.

ORIGINAL: abbysdad

Abbysdad,i guess they go by what most of us can only go by when judging a food,and that is by the ingredient list.

If a food has mystery meats and by-products,then this is enough for me not to want to feed that food......

That is the crux of the problem, this is what Timberwolf says about there beef and lamb meals, it sounds a lot like a by-product meal to me.

Our beef meal is made from not only the muscle tisue, but also meaty bones, spleens, kidneys, lungs, heart and other organs.


This is what Eukanuba says about it's chicken by-product meal.

Chicken by-products is a protein source that includes chicken muscle meat as well as chicken organ meat.


This is what Biljac says:

We use only fresh organ meat, which is naturally nutritious (see the ingredients list on our bags)

Yet TWO is good because it uses high quality meals and high protein sources and Euk and Bil-jac are bad cause they use by-products and poor protein sources and in reality no one can tell which of these protein sources is better without testing them.

That's funny you mentioned that because I have wondered the SAME thing! lol