Dog diet drug

    • Gold Top Dog

    Dog diet drug

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-01-05-dogobesity_x.htm?csp=34

    What do you think? Unecessary drug or good jump start for weight loss?

    Personally, I don't see the problem with feeding less and exercising more, unless the dog is so obese it can't exercise.
    • Silver
    ick....
    dont feed your dog as much food and it will lose weight. thats my theory? ive never had a problem doing it that way.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Just . . .



    Dogs are getting fatter - so are their owners - duh . . .hasn't anything to do with the modern lifestyle of overeating and being housebound. . .[8|]
    • Gold Top Dog
    Wait! I know the magic secret thing that will make you and your dog lose weight!

    1. Eat less, don't snack, you don't need enormous portions or seconds and sweets shouldn't be an every day thing (I do the www.nosdiet.com)

    2. Move more.  30 minutes every day.

    There are no pills or potions or special low carb/nocarb/high protein/cabbage/fruit diets that are magic.  Long term is portion regulation, making healthy food choices, exercise and using common sense.

    That's it folks.

    And I wonder if the dog diet pill is just anothe rway for drug companies to get at your pocketbook?? [:D]
    • Gold Top Dog
    I don't think I'd resort to drugs unless it was a life threatening health situation. 
     
    One of the dogs I sit for is on the Canine Zone diet.  Here's a link--
     
    [linkhttp://www.dog-food-zone.com/canine_zone.htm]http://www.dog-food-zone.com/canine_zone.htm[/link]
    • Gold Top Dog
    Canine Zone! As in 30/30/40?!?!? Are they insane? That means the dog is getting most of its calories through carbs and fat. I'm pretty sure that's right. I'd go for a modified version of zone but it sounds like they took the human principle and just slapped it on the dogs, with no consideration for their totally different metabolism.

    Reduce calorie intake, get more active. It's just that easy - and difficult! Although, I'll admit Patrick and I are doing lo-carb because we looked at how we were eating and it's just out of control. I'll probably switch to simply reduced portions once Patrick's back on track - I do just fine with rice, small portions of pasta and whatnot.
    • Gold Top Dog
    WOW. There's an herbal one that I laughed at when it came out. WHYYYY????

    Seriously, no dog is so obese it can't get exersize. Teenie with no legs was over double her current weight, when I got her. She got a workout or two (it wasn't hard, five minute walks did her in)  every day. Eventually, she could exersize more and more. Now, she can do ridiculous things that most pet dogs would not consider, and she LOVES it! Besides that, measuring food and not feeding treats will remedy most doggy weigh issues (aside from medical reasons, of course! I tested her thyroid and all before starting her weight loss program).

    I hate diet drugs, for everybody. I hate diet pills of any kind. I hate selling them at the health food store. I don't even like Hoodia, and it's totally safe and fine. I've been very overweight, and had an overweight dog. Diet drugs are dangerous. Fruits and veggies are perfectly safe[;)]
    • Gold Top Dog
    Seriously, no dog is so obese it can't get exersize.

     
    I am sad to say this is wrong.  I got involved with donating to a golden retriever rescue in Florida (yes, I am in Texas) when someone posted the story of a rescued golden on one of my dog boards.  His name was Bo and when TAKEN from the family, he was over 200 pounds (210 I think) and couldn't walk at all.  It took 4 rescue people to get him to the van.   He was covered in sores as he couldn't get off the porch and laid in his own poop and pee and they would "hose him off" occasionally.  He actually looked like a big slug or one of those elephant seal  bulls.
     
    He tested for low thyroid and that was part of the problem, but also it was what they fed him--stuff like donuts and beer.  He was taken to and kept at an animal hospital for care, treatment and to try to get weight off him. In a couple of weeks he would drag himself around following people and once they got him to his feet he could take a few steps. They would take him to let him lay on grass.  Weight was coming off and he was loving all the attention and actaully being able to drag himslef--but God bless that sweet soul, there was just to much damage to his heart and it gave out.
     
    This was about two years ago and since then I have donated regularly and get a news letter a couple of times a year and sadly other grossly over weight goldens, not as bad as Bo, but almost as bad, are being treated there.  They have to get weight off before they can truly exercise.  Because of seeing pictures of these dogs we earmark our checks to the Fat Dog Fund as these dogs require so much medical treatment, special diet, etc.  And if this is going on at the Golden Retriever Rescue of Mid Florida (GRRMF if you want to check it out) it is probably going on at many other shelters, rescues and even homes where the dogs are not treated.
     
    So sometimes weight MUS^T come off before exercise can really begin---but I don't know about diet pills for that.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Whoa. I've never heard of anything being THAT fat. I honestly thought a dog would die, before it got that huge (Teenie was in REALLY bad shape, but she could waddle around). That's wild! Feeding a remotely normal-like amount of food would remedy that, though, wouldn't it? All I did for Teenie was feed according to the guidelines for a dog a few pounds lighter than she was (I started with the guideline for a 20 pound dog, when she weighed 23, then moved lower, slowly. The vet said to keep it gradual), and some small amounts (at first) of exersize.  There are some REALLY beautiful Goldens on that website! Makes me miss my Golden girl.
    • Gold Top Dog
    I would imagine it's just like morbidly obese people.  They can't just start exercising at that size.  They have to go thru a program to get some weight off first and slowly start adding in more movement.  I work with a girl in her 20's who is over 400 lbs and she cannot walk from her desk to the filing cabinet without getting completely out of breath.  She cannot stand up for long at all.  She has to sit down to pull files and that might take all of five or ten minutes. 
     
     
    • Gold Top Dog
    How can anybody let their dog get like that, though? That should be prosecuted as animal cruelty. At least people have the option of healthy foods. Dogs just don't know any better.
    • Gold Top Dog
    People either just don't care or are not educated on how unhealthy that can be.  I myself have issues with my own weight and have to be very careful not to transfer that over to Willow.  It's something I've always had in the back of my mind, if I ever had a dog or a cat or a kid I wouldn't let them get too big and have to deal with dieting like I do. 
    • Gold Top Dog
    The ones that actually went out and got Bo reported that the "owners"  were LAUGHING because they thought he looked so funny and I was not raised to use cuss words but i can sure think of some dandies for those %^&#@$* creeps!
     
    At 210 he was about 3 times what he should weight.  That is figuring on 70 pounds as a good weight.  of course it depends on the dog.  My Hunter was a long, tall, lean golden that stayed 77 to 79 pounds, but appeard almost skinny.
     
    I cried when I saw the picture of him on the golden forum and then I went to that site and saw more picture and cried even more.  Then when I saw pictures of him actually standing on the grass i cheered.  Then i learned that even tho he had improved so much, lost several pounds, could actually drag himself, his "poop and urine" induced sores healed his loving heart gave out and he died and i cried so much you would have thought he had been my dog.
     
    As far as I am concerned there are way to many people like Bo's so called owners. in my last newletter was the story of a golden--I think he was 15--whose owners "got tired of waiting for him to die."  It seems his health was very good for an old dog and he just wouldn't die, so they dumped him.  They had had him since he was a puppy.  What kind of people are those that would do that?  Occasionly some are turned in because the owners have to go into retirment home and can no longer have the dog and that is sad, but to dump it because it won't die.  Those kind of people need to roast in Hell as far as I am concerned.
     
    OPh well, off my soap box.  I just wanted to let you know that some creatures do allow their dogs to get so over weight they can't exercise and that is way to sad.
    • Gold Top Dog
    I have to agree that Bo's situation is animal cruelty. These people need to be prosecuted.
     
    I can see the drug being useful in an extremely limited number of situations. It is for example, possible for a dog to gain an alarming amount of weight in a short time before they get an accurate thyroid test and the proper amount of medication. If the pet also has orthopedic problems, assistance with weight loss may be of value.
     
    But for the most part, overweight dogs lose just fine with measured portions and exercise to tolerance.
    • Gold Top Dog
    I can't imagine using a a diet drug on Roxie.  Unless it was my last resort, I'd never touch it.