Since the format change...

I#%92ve been accused of launching and leading an "assault" on myorganicpets.

I too have been accused of this along with Sooner.

What I do find innappropriate is the horribly rude comments. I understand that some people are just abrasive in their interactions with others, but that does not necessarily make it acceptable.

You can call that behavior "passionate" "direct" and "true" but more than anything it is downright mean and getting pretty old.

That was what I repeated several times to her in one specific thread, not that her points and comments were not valid.

I love to share info and learn, but not if it means getting myself into a long, drawn out debate. And of course, once I get into one, I feel obligated to continue to respond or I'd look like a cop-out/unreliable source of info and it just becomes a big waste of my time and energy...

LOL stacey thats exactly how i feel,exactly! I also hate debating,i'm no good at it,i dont have the patience for it either,but i plod on going round and round in circles playing right into the other posters hands because i am unable to turn a blind eye when someone refers to me....

As for the "none of my business" comment,this is a "public" message board,if people want to post on it they are making it everyones business []

I have been here 2 1/2 years

Sandra what was your username on the other boards?I dont remember you at all.

My thoughts as being very new compared to a lot of you, are that this forum is just like any group of people in life.  Some are going to cause problems or find it fun to rile things up... but most are very nice.
 
I was looking up something like "death by pancreatitis"  right after Kayla died because I was sitting here a complete mess, howling and crying trying to figure out how in my worst nightmare what happened to her happened.  I somehow came across this link and read a little and then posted my story.
 
I got a lot of nice words which ment more than you know at that time.  I felt like nobody understood what I was going through, they heard what happened and were like Im sorry... and I could just tell they didnt get it, they had no idea how much I love her and how much pain I was in.  Ya'll understood... you all got it.  Its nice to have a place like this with people who share that love for thier dogs and understand how they truely become part of your family and how earth-shattering it can be to lose them.
 
In any group of people who are so passionate you are going to have each person who feels their way is the best on certain things... and "discussions" may arise.  Yes, I see some people getting nasty, but more so I see people getting defensive.  The majority of the agruments Ive seen have seemed more to arise from people being oversensitive.
 
The only time I got frustrated with this site was recently as few new people asked questions, then got mad because we didnt say what they wanted to hear.  It was hard for me not to be nasty.  There have been a few like that lately, we answer and they somehow take it personal and get upset and accuse people of attacking them or something.  If you are really not willing to hear other points of view then why on earth did you post here!? 
 
There will never be a perfect place where everyone is all happy and nice and puts everything into words just right so not even the most sensitive feelings get upset.  And from reading a lot of the threads I have realized that sometimes when you dont even notice youve done anything, or you have even thought you were nice you are going to come across someone who doesnt like what youve said.  Oh well, you cant please everyone, they really should be more open minded when they just asked a huge group of people for their opinions! 
 
Okay I'll stop ranting about that, just need to get it out.  Other than that.. I really like it here.  I think the people that are here often are very nice, and share my love for dogs, and like to see pictures as much as I do. 
 
IMHO, the learning process sometimes entails hearing this that may be "hard to hear", but thats why we ask questions right?
 
I guess what Im having so much trouble saying [>:] is most of the arguments I do see are very petty... and for the ones that are just someone being flat out mean, I will avoid those people... but that has yet to happen to me.
 
Sorry that was long.

Also, I do not at all think you would be a cop-out or unreliable source should you excuse yourself from a discussion that has gotten ugly.   In fact, thats all anyone has to do to end it... if someone is just being nasty why continue the discussion.  Just say okay this is getting out of hand and I prefer not to go on with it. []
 
Like I said, I have not had it happend to me yet, but I will just stop posting about it should I feel like that. 
 
 

Just about 3 weeks on one of my golden boards one lost her 4 year old golden to pancreaitis.  She came in from work and found he had thrown up, rushed him right to the vet (this was Tuesday night.)  They didn't make the diangosis until Thursday and Friday they found his pancrease was actually dying.    The vet said he could operate, but there was just a slim chance the dog would survive the operation, and if so, his life would not be anywhere near quality, so they had to make the hoffible decision to let him go.  They just got his ashes back the other day.
 
It has been 2 1/2 years since I lost my Hunter to autoimmune hemolytic anemia brought on by ProHeart6 and I still miss him so very much.  He had just turned 4 also.  She will never leave your heart as Hunter has never left mine.

I am 3 goldens on other boards.

No she won't.  Like I have said to many people, should it have been my human daughter it couldn't have hurt any more. 
 
I did post before I read a few more nutrition posts that were very ugly.  And I want to add something...
 
Before coming here I did not know that much about the dog food deal, and I though what I was feeding was perfectly fine.  I am glad to have learned what I did, and have now switched to Innova  dry and canned.  Anyway.... I was feeding Nutro Nat. Lamb and Rice.   I still do not think its a bad food or anything like that, but I personally wanted to be feeding the best that I could afford. 
 
This is directed to the nasty people :
There are people out there reading this that love their dogs just as much as you do, yet are simply unaware of the better options for food... and to read these threads and see "GARBAGE" and "they 'think' their dog is 'healthy'", and all these things is very disrespectful.
 
I couldn't have loved my Kayla any more than I did and still do... and I know I will never love ANYTHING or ANYONE that purely and wholly again.  And I fed her Nutro...  I didnt know about the better foods. 
 
Although I stand by what I said about leaving such arguments when they get out of hand or simply not posting in them.... it really is unfortunate that people who are here looking are being soo uneblieveably insulted by some of you for simply not knowing.  The people posting like that should really get over themselves and remember that at some point they didnt know either.
 
Im glad I didnt see these things before I joined because had I, I would certainly not have made an account or kept reading... and I still wouldnt know. 

Originally this thread started out being about not as many people being here, ( or other people being gone or suspended, etc.) and some folks being not so nice.

Well, think about it this way:

Jaime has said there are over 18,000 people who belong to i-dog! Sheer numbers alone would indicate that there would have to be some maladjusted, rude people in a group of people that large! Just by numbers alone, there would have to be a few trolls!

Of course not all of those people post. Most of them are lurkers. But I suspect there are around five hundred posting members, and that's enough to have pulled up a few trolls.

If you went into a room of 500 people, would you expect them all to be perfectly well-adjusted? Heck no! All of them will have their own personal foibles, we all do! Some worse than others, some better. It's just the spectrum of folks you get in large groups.

It's not the new forum, or anything else, it's just people being people.

I remember Sandra, and as far as I can recall, she has always been Sandra.
 
I've been here just over two years and have seen tremendous changes in that time......some for the better, some for the worse.
 
Yep, Sunny was a good source, but very abrasive in her posting style and I think she got run off because of that.
 
I do think we lost a few folks in the transition but I also think that a lot of folks either have different names now, or just flat got tired of the crap.
 
I've always said that I'm an expert on NOTHING....just an old broad with a lot of years of dog experience and that I'm always learning and trying to grow.  Yet, I get a TON of emails from people with questions that they are AFRAID to ask on the board.  That's pretty sad.  One gal took a fair amount of convincing, even tho she'd already JOINED idog, to come out of the closet and actually POST.  She pm'd me a fair amount, which was fine, but I knew that she'd really benefit from the community.  Why people choose ME to pm I'm not real sure, but maybe they feel that they will get a fair answer, not nailed to the wall, regardless of my own personal beliefs......and maybe some HELP without exposing themselves to all the nonsense.
 
I have to say this....for quite some time, the NEW idog was kinder and gentler......now there seeem to be a few hellbent on stirring the pot and causing problems.
 
No under Jim suspensions and warnings weren't common...although he did take exception to my calling myself a bit of a smart arse.....however, under Jim DAYS could go by without him being around.  He had to work to support idog so I got that, but it is annoying to have anyone bring up what a God of moderating Jim was, cuz it simply isn't true.

Oh, and I don't respond as much because frankly, I'm sick and tired of the few that use my post count as a club with which to beat me over the head.

I think the thing I hate the worst lately are the insinuating questions that are asked, sometime directly to one person, sometimes to everyone,,,but either way, they are meant to start trouble or at least it always looks like it.  The same people do it over and over. 
 

I just don't like it when misinformation is spread. People reading may not know that this stuff is false-- and when a comment to the effect of grains prevent cancer and tumor growth is made, I'd like to know where that information came from because it is contradictory to everything I know and I think that if it can be proven there are a lot of people that would be interested in that. An emoticon in response doesn't tell me much.

Sooner, I'm sure Callie can give you her sources, but it is well known that a cancer diet avoids grain carbs because cancer cells FEED on those.  I don't think that anyone has said that not feeding carbs will avoid cancer, but once it's found, discontinueing carbs will eliminate a source of fuel.  Does that make sense??  If not, I need more coffee![]

Yeah I know Glenda--that's why, for my own benefit and the benefit of the lurkers, when a statement was made that feeding grains prevents cancer and tumor growth, I questioned it. *If* that's proven in dogs, I'd love to see the research on it.