Eukanuba Puppy- Large Breed? Iams- Smart Puppy? THoughts, good the bad the ugly?

I noticed the formulas showed more than one meat source and a meat was listed first.
 

ORIGINAL: sandra_slayton

Use what works for your dogs, be it Ol Roy, EP, Purina, Wellness, Science Diet, TW, Eukanumba.  Mine get purina one as it works great for them.  But it doens't work for every dog.  No brand does.What works for one will make another have mushy poop, and what works for it will make another itch, etc.

Oh yes, feed them Ol' Roy.  It will shorten your dog#%92s life span, make his coat cruddy, possible cause or worsen arthritis, and should I mention that dogs need more meat in their diets than anything else, but feed Ol' Roy because it contains barely any meat and the meat it does contain is mostly bone.  Yep, I'd say feed Ol' Roy.

Come one Sandra.   You aren't seriously suggesting that anyone feed Ol' Roy, are you? Don't even mention that.  Some passer by might actually take you serious.

I don't know about you, but I like to help new people on this forum by giving them good advice.  You know that advice is bad.

On the topic.

Food's you can find at Pet Smart that are better than Eukanuba...
Blue Buffalo - which is pricy
Royal Canin Large Breed Pup
Nutro Natural Choice Large Breed Pup, which is also grainy.

I would highly recommend Eagle Pack Large Breed Puppy or Holistic Large Breed Puppy.  If you go to eagle pack's website.  They have vendor search that may be able to locate a vendor in your area.  I might be some little farm feed store that you never knew exsisted.

Oh yes, feed them Ol' Roy. It will shorten your dog#%92s life span, make his coat cruddy, possible cause or worsen arthritis, and should I mention that dogs need more meat in their diets than anything else, but feed Ol' Roy because it contains barely any meat and the meat it does contain is mostly bone. Yep, I'd say feed Ol' Roy.

Come one Sandra. You aren't seriously suggesting that anyone feed Ol' Roy, are you? Don't even mention that. Some passer by might actually take you serious.

I don't know about you, but I like to help new people on this forum by giving them good advice. You know that advice is bad.

[sm=clapping%20hands%20smiley.gif] Bravo jojo!

Butterfly you live in California,the list of great pet foods available to you is endless[] Leave the eukanuba and iams to pet owners who have NO other choice but to feed foods like them [&:] [:'(]

Oh yes, feed them Ol' Roy. It will shorten your dog#%92s life span, make his coat cruddy, possible cause or worsen arthritis, and should I mention that dogs need more meat in their diets than anything else, but feed Ol' Roy because it contains barely any meat and the meat it does contain is mostly bone. Yep, I'd say feed Ol' Roy.

Come one Sandra. You aren't seriously suggesting that anyone feed Ol' Roy, are you? Don't even mention that. Some passer by might actually take you serious.

I don't know about you, but I like to help new people on this forum by giving them good advice. You know that advice is bad.

 
Sorry, but if Ol Roy works and others don't, USE IT.  I have yet to see any proven stats that it has killed X amount of dogs years early, just posts by people who say it does, but they have never posted a link where the exact stats can be found.  It has just been the opinion of some that Uncle Zekes' dog died at 9 instead of 10 because he ate Ol Roy.  But I have seen posts by some who knew dogs that lived long healthy lives on it.  Personally I don't know anyone that does use it. Personally I don't know that dogs live any sjprter lives--or any longer lives--on Ol Roy.  What i am saying is use what works for your dog no matter what the brand, no matter the flak you get.  You and your vet knows your dog, people on these forums do not.
 
Also i think it highly unlikey a newbie is going to come here and read ONE post and rush out and buy Ol Roy.  I didn't say to use it or Purina or TW or  Wellness or any brand, just use what works for your dog. 

Canidae is sold at Pet Supply Plus.
 
The all stage formula sells for 38 bucks and change.

ORIGINAL: sandra_slayton

Oh yes, feed them Ol' Roy. It will shorten your dog's life span, make his coat cruddy, possible cause or worsen arthritis, and should I mention that dogs need more meat in their diets than anything else, but feed Ol' Roy because it contains barely any meat and the meat it does contain is mostly bone. Yep, I'd say feed Ol' Roy.

Come one Sandra. You aren't seriously suggesting that anyone feed Ol' Roy, are you? Don't even mention that. Some passer by might actually take you serious.

I don't know about you, but I like to help new people on this forum by giving them good advice. You know that advice is bad.

Sorry, but if Ol Roy works and others don't, USE IT.  I have yet to see any proven stats that it has killed X amount of dogs years early, just posts by people who say it does, but they have never posted a link where the exact stats can be found.  It has just been the opinion of some that Uncle Zekes' dog died at 9 instead of 10 because he ate Ol Roy.  But I have seen posts by some who knew dogs that lived long healthy lives on it.  Personally I don't know anyone that does use it. Personally I don't know that dogs live any sjprter lives--or any longer lives--on Ol Roy.  What i am saying is use what works for your dog no matter what the brand, no matter the flak you get.  You and your vet knows your dog, people on these forums do not. 

Also i think it highly unlikey a newbie is going to come here and read ONE post and rush out and buy Ol Roy.  I didn't say to use it or Purina or TW or  Wellness or any brand, just use what works for your dog. 

Sandra, try eating nothing but corn gruel for the next month and a multi vitamin each day.  Then let us know how healthy are you after that month.  Then we'll have our proof.  Or should I dare suggest that you feed your dog Ol' Roy for a month or two and then let  us know how healthy or dog is.  Oh, but I bet your wouldn't.  Why?  Because you wouldn't do that to your beloved dog.  I don't want other people to do that to their dog.

If your dog can't eat anything else but Ol' Roy then either you don't know what a healthy dog looks like or their is something wrong with your dog that a vet needs to resolve.  If I couldn't eat anything but corn and a multivitamin without a problem, then I would go to a doctor.

I can understand feeding Purina One. I can understand feeding Nutro Max.  But  there is no good reason to feed Ol Roy other than you can't afford anything else or don't care.

Guys guys guys...DONT WORRY, I wouldnt go from feeding them Iams and Eukanuba to Ol Roy...whatever that is. Its sounds like its probably cheap dog food like ALPO or whatever. Anyway, I have Charlie on I/D Diet right now in hopes that it will firm him back up at the suggestion of the vet. Fingers crossed that we dont have to do meds ...again! Anyway, I guess I will stick with the Eukanuba for Beau, his poo is normal and I guess if its working, I might as well leave it that way. As for Bella and Charlie, I dont want to switch anything up until Charlie's tummy has settled and remained that way for a bit. I am hopeful however that he does NOT have a food allergy or anything. I jsut cant help but wonder since he gets soft stool issues more often than Bella. Time will tell.
 
Sorry I posted something that would cause such a heated debate... Yikes!

You still didn't post the links where there is proven data that Ol Roy kills all those dogs years before their time, that they are unhealthy, sickly, miserable critters.  I am talking about actually scientific testing and data, not some opinion or statement by some nutritionist. 
 
I am not saying it is a good food, I am not saying it is a bad food.  I am saying I think people shouldn't go around saying it kills dogs way before their time, they are sickly, pitiful looking creatures, etc on it. when as far as I have ever been able to determine that is just stuff people read, opinions by other people, nothing real to back up those statements.
 
If a person wants to say they don't like, they don't think it is a good food, they wouldn't feed it to their dogs, fine, no problem with that.  But I don't think folks should say it sends dogs to early graves, causes all kinds of problems, etc. As I said, as far as I have been able to determine, that is all opinion by ones who don't like it, not proven fact.

But I don't think folks should say it sends dogs to early graves, causes all kinds of problems, etc.

Take a look at the ingredients of ol' roy next time you're at the store,if feeding a food with such dirt poor ingredients to a dog every single day doesnt riddle him with disease,major or minor and send him to an early grave then i dont what will! [&o]

Ol' roy amongst others was found to have traces of pentobarbital in it,feed this to my dogs,no thanks!

Here is the link to the full list of pet foods studied for traces of pentobarbital.

http://www.ussvance.com/Vance/htm/pentobarbital%20in%20dog%20food.htm

I personally don't need any scientific studies to know that Ol Roy is a bad food. Common sense tells me that the ingredients are not what is healthy for any dog.

OK GUYS, thanks for your advice, but i am MOVING ON! Didnt write this to argue about OL ROY. I wrote this for advice on foods. Have fun!

Okay, I read it and still didn't see the  facts or figures or proof that Ol Roy is sending dogs to early graves and  causing horrible illnesses like  has been stated here on this forum. I also saw it said that was not enough of that drug in the food to harm the dogs.
 
As i said before I have never used it and nobody I know has ever said they used it.What I do know is I would not get on a forum and say it was sending dogs to early graves or causing a multitude of problems when there is nothing to back up that statement except opinions of others.  I never said it was a good food, I just said if it was the only thing that worked for my dog i would use it with hesitation.
 
I have read ths same things said about Iam, Eukanuba, Purian, Science Diet.  If this were true, then proabably 95% of the worlds dogs will die years before their time and be sickly creatures their entire lives.  And I don't see that at all.

what in the world.... no one can even come on this forum and ask a question without the message going COMPLETELY off topic anymore. just drop it. if someone wants to feed ol' roy so be it! i surely wouldn't be defending that food but whatever...people can do what they want