grains vs potatoes

    • Gold Top Dog
    Maybe I will stick to white potatoes in my raw meals then because old bitch Nandi (about 11) is definitely stiffening up.


    White potatoes are a nightshade veggie:) Just as bad, or worse. Just don't use a whole lot of potato, and it should be fine. You could use yucca root (it's white, and sweet) for it's natural anti inflamatory properties. My dogs LOVE it, and it's a great winter veggie.
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: jennie_c_d

    Maybe I will stick to white potatoes in my raw meals then because old bitch Nandi (about 11) is definitely stiffening up.


    White potatoes are a nightshade veggie:) Just as bad, or worse. Just don't use a whole lot of potato, and it should be fine. You could use yucca root (it's white, and sweet) for it's natural anti inflamatory properties. My dogs LOVE it, and it's a great winter veggie.



    So is tomato isn't it? Besides, regarding yucca - if it's what we call cassava in the carribean it has a distinct TOXIC phase.  Please investigate that more.

    Paula
    • Gold Top Dog
    paulaedwina, are there different types of yucca root?  I've been using yucca root manufactured for dogs as an anti-inflammatory for years.  I also add fresh Yucca root to my dogs home prepared meals at times...I steam it first. 
     
    The saponins in Yucca are a precursor of natural coritsone normally produced by the adrenal glands. Ths makes it a popular remedy for all kinds of inflammation, such as arthritis, rheumatism, bursitis, colitis, and other inflammatory conditions....and is used in many dog foods and supplements.  In the dog foods it's mainly used to keep the smell of the feces down[;)
     
    In 1975, Dr. Robert Bingham, director of the National Arthritis Medical Clinic, tested a Yucca saponin extract on 149 patients at the California center. Most of the patients later felt less pain, stiffness, and swelling in their joints. Others also received additional benefits, such as, migraine relief, lower blood pressure, and cholesterol/triglyceride reduction.  Dr. Bingham believes that the saponins aid digestion and absorption of fats. They also work as cleansing substances which help prevent absorption of harmful bacteria and protozoa from the bowel that cause the stiffness and inflammation in the joints, he says. These compounds also appear to improve circulation.

    Yucca is high in vitamins A, B, and C, and contains potassium, calcium, phosphorus, iron, manganese and copper which make it very soothing to the intestinal tract. The plant provides nutritional support to the structural system (bones, joints, muscles). 

     
    Like jennie_c_d, my research shows that Yucca is a good addition to the diet.  I'm just curious when Yucca may be toxic...it wouldn't be sold in a grocery store at that point when toxic...would it????
    • Gold Top Dog
    Yucca, hmm? Great tip!

    American/European root veggies/starchies:

    Beetroot
    Celeriac
    Eggplant
    Jerusalem artichoke (inulin - good for diabetic pets)
    Parsnip
    Rutabaga
    Salsify
    Swede
    Sweet potato
    Turnip

    And the Asian varieties commonly available here:
    Daikon
    Law bok (Asian turnip) - this can be bitter so peel and mask with strong flavors your dogs will accept

    Tropical if you can find it:
    Breadfruit
    Cassada
    Jicama (inulin)
    True yam
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: Cally01

    paulaedwina, are there different types of yucca root?  I've been using yucca root manufactured for dogs as an anti-inflammatory for years.  I also add fresh Yucca root to my dogs home prepared meals at times...I steam it first. 

    The saponins in Yucca are a precursor of natural coritsone normally produced by the adrenal glands. Ths makes it a popular remedy for all kinds of inflammation, such as arthritis, rheumatism, bursitis, colitis, and other inflammatory conditions....and is used in many dog foods and supplements.  In the dog foods it's mainly used to keep the smell of the feces down[;)

    In 1975, Dr. Robert Bingham, director of the National Arthritis Medical Clinic, tested a Yucca saponin extract on 149 patients at the California center. Most of the patients later felt less pain, stiffness, and swelling in their joints. Others also received additional benefits, such as, migraine relief, lower blood pressure, and cholesterol/triglyceride reduction.  Dr. Bingham believes that the saponins aid digestion and absorption of fats. They also work as cleansing substances which help prevent absorption of harmful bacteria and protozoa from the bowel that cause the stiffness and inflammation in the joints, he says. These compounds also appear to improve circulation.

    Yucca is high in vitamins A, B, and C, and contains potassium, calcium, phosphorus, iron, manganese and copper which make it very soothing to the intestinal tract. The plant provides nutritional support to the structural system (bones, joints, muscles). 


    Like jennie_c_d, my research shows that Yucca is a good addition to the diet.  I'm just curious when Yucca may be toxic...it wouldn't be sold in a grocery store at that point when toxic...would it????


    Maybe it isn't what we call cassava in the caribbean then. Cassava is root vegetable that is quite popular and tasty, but I know there is some kind of protocol to be followed about when to harvest.  But you've done way more investigation than I have - I' m just going by vague childhood recollection.

    I just did a little googling. Cassava root is leached of the cyanide and dried (we call it farina at that point). But I didn't find much about boiling it and eating it - which we also did.  Shrug.

    Paula
    • Gold Top Dog
    I just did some quick research and apparently yucca is the same as cassava root.

    Here's a quote from this link:

    http://www.anapsid.org/resources/yucca.html

    People in Hispanic countries use cassavas (also called manioc, mandioca, yucca, yuca, yucca root, yuca root, Brazilian arrowroot) much like those of us in the U.S. use potatoes.


    And info about the toxicity :

    The roots contain saponins which are quite toxic to people. However, they are poorly absorbed by the body, and so tend to pass straight through, and they are destroyed by prolonged heat, such as slow baking in an oven. Saponins are much more toxic to some creatures, such as fish, and hunting tribes have traditionally put large quantities of them in streams, lakes, etc., in order to stupefy or kill the fish.

    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: Luvntzus

    I just did some quick research and apparently yucca is the same as cassava root.

    Here's a quote from this link:

    [linkhttp://www.anapsid.org/resources/yucca.html]http://www.anapsid.org/resources/yucca.html[/link]

    People in Hispanic countries use cassavas (also called manioc, mandioca, yucca, yuca, yucca root, yuca root, Brazilian arrowroot) much like those of us in the U.S. use potatoes.


    And info about the toxicity :

    The roots contain saponins which are quite toxic to people. However, they are poorly absorbed by the body, and so tend to pass straight through, and they are destroyed by prolonged heat, such as slow baking in an oven. Saponins are much more toxic to some creatures, such as fish, and hunting tribes have traditionally put large quantities of them in streams, lakes, etc., in order to stupefy or kill the fish.




    That would explain why we could boil it an eat it.  Thanks for the clarification.

    Paula
    • Gold Top Dog
    if it's what we call cassava in the carribean it has a distinct TOXIC phase. Please investigate that more.


    I buy it at the regular grocery store, so my guess would be that it's ok. Of course, I'll be looking into it, though[;)] I haven't heard that, before. I did know that you were supposed to cook it, and never feed it raw.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Manioc was a staple of the First cultures, too. I remember being fascinated at the process when I was a kid - I had a book that described it (yes, I was a history nerd early on). They pounded it, soaked it, then put it in these long woven tubes which hung on end. The tube had a loop on the bottom end that they stepped on over and over to compress the manioc mush. When the free liquid was squished out, it was safe to use in recipes. I always thought that was so cool and wondered how they figured out the process. Trial and error I suppose.

    I didn't know manioc and yucca were the same. I'd seen manioc called yuca but never made the connection for some reason. I'm a lingust and just overcomplicate these things sometimes, but in this case the cigar really was just a cigar, eh?
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: brookcove

    Manioc was a staple of the First cultures, too. I remember being fascinated at the process when I was a kid - I had a book that described it (yes, I was a history nerd early on). They pounded it, soaked it, then put it in these long woven tubes which hung on end. The tube had a loop on the bottom end that they stepped on over and over to compress the manioc mush. When the free liquid was squished out, it was safe to use in recipes. I always thought that was so cool and wondered how they figured out the process. Trial and error I suppose.

    I didn't know manioc and yucca were the same. I'd seen manioc called yuca but never made the connection for some reason. I'm a lingust and just overcomplicate these things sometimes, but in this case the cigar really was just a cigar, eh?


    It was one of the few root vegetables I liked as a child. Boiled cassava is almost sweet. Liked that and sweet potatoes. HATED yam (not the yam/sweet potato here, a different root), HATED dasheen (aka poi).

    Paula
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    I didn't know manioc and yucca were the same. I'd seen manioc called yuca but never made the connection for some reason.
    ORIGINAL: brookcove

    [linkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapioca]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapioca[/link]
     
    Tapioca is an essentially flavourless starchy ingredient, or fecula, produced from treated and dried cassava (manioc) root and used in cooking. It is similar to sago and is commonly used to make a milky pudding similar to rice pudding. Purchased tapioca comprises many small white spheres each about 2 mm in diameter. These are not seeds, but rather reconstituted processed root. The processing concept is akin to the way that wheat is turned into pasta.