WHAT is with the Purina people?

for $1.50 an acre, I would buy it without beach front rights.
 
Who else votes to put this thread to bed already! 

ORIGINAL: dyan


I can't remember reading that anyone said a small dog food company could not have decent QC either to be honest. 

I do remember reading that several times.

Edited for typo.

ORIGINAL: sillysally

No true.  I have seen plenty on unkind things said by at least one of the Purina feeders about premium food feeders as well as one of the foods I have fed specifically.  The difference is that I don't feel the need to turn such things into a federal case.

There have been many, MANY polite responses on this thread.  However, it seems far more popular to ignore those and jump on the "poor 'lil Purina feeders that are Oh so discriminated against" bandwagon..  Please.  Most of these posters are far more vocal than anyone else on here.  This is message boards 101--if you're going to put it out there, expect people to have opinions on it.  If you don't want people to express their opinions about what you feed, how you train, etc, then do not post it on a PUBLIC message board.

Telling people in a polite way that they dislike a certain food and they think most dogs would do better if switched is not BASHING, it is OPINION.  Kind of like telling people they are a delusional money waster if they feed their dog premium food and that Purina is the be all end all.  Or that they only feed premium as a "security blanket."  Or that there is no possible way that small dog food companies could have decent quality control methods (which, if you know anything about manufacturing, you know is untrue).  All of those are opinions, yet somehow I don't see multiple page topics whining and moaning about them......

I totally, 100% agree with you! I've read LOTS of negative things about the "premium" foods. One of comments that really stands out to me is the one that we're just wasting money on the holistic foods, basically implying that we're suckers for doing so. But those of us who feed that type of food didn't throw a pity party and victimize ourselves like I've seen several of the Purina feeders doing. [8|]

You don't believe I use Purina? Come to my house any time you wish and see what is in my garage in food storage bin.

ORIGINAL: sandra_slayton

I think you miss my point entirely.  Your dogs get Purina, supplements and other very fresh food.  I would guess that the vast majority of people who feed kibble are not significantly supplementing, crockpotting et cetera other than a little table scrap action.
 
In other words you do not feel that Purina alone is sufficient.

Wow, I pop into the Nutrition thread and this is what I get?

I personally don't feed Purina, but my breeder does (ProPlan High Energy -something like that) and her dogs are doing well.  I have my reasons for feeding what I do (Solid Gold-Wolf King /Hundenflocken) and I understand everyone else has their reasons for feeding what they feed.

Some dogs, IMO, do better-solid stools, less digestive problems, more active, better appetite etc...) on different foods, be they Purina, Iams, Euk, NB or Newman's Own.  I've fed Blue Buffalo-my dogs did well but after 4 months developed loose stools-so I took them off of it.  My dogs don't do too well on poultry (chicken or turkey) based products- so I keep those to a minimum.

I don't think anyone on these forums would feed a food if they thought it was doing more harm than good.  Everybody has the same goals for their dogs nutrition:  To help the dog live a long, healthy life and minimize health problems.

There are a million ways to get to California from New York...none of them is the right way for everyone. 

*Ding* *Ding* Time for the next round.

I don't think anyone on these forums would feed a food if they thought it was doing more harm than good. Everybody has the same goals for their dogs nutrition: To help the dog live a long, healthy life and minimize health problems.

 
You hit the nail on the head with that statement! [sm=clapping%20hands%20smiley.gif] 

[color=#cc6699]I totally, 100% agree with you! I've read LOTS of negative things about the "premium" foods. One of comments that really stands out to me is the one that we're just wasting money on the holistic foods, basically implying that we're suckers for doing so. But those of us who feed that type of food didn't throw a pity party and victimize ourselves like I've seen several of the Purina feeders doing. [8|]

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I probably haven't  read EVERY post ever written here...so I certainly could have missed something,,,, but other then someone being backed into a wall and coming out fighting...I have not seen such posts at all. 

In other words you do not feel that Purina alone is sufficient.
 

Even the Great Dane Lady says: from her website 
It is very important that you use a total feed program, because there is no food on the market that is 100%complete.

I don't think anyone on these forums would feed a food if they thought it was doing more harm than good.

But some people refuse to believe that their beloved food could possibly be doing their dogs any harm,and blame their dogs problems on everything else BUT their food.

Go thru that thread on what we feed our dogs and you will find many, if not most, who are feeding premium foods are also feeding raw or home cooked AND giving sups.   So why do they do it if the premium food is so perfect.  I see no one telling them that their raw or home cooked and sups is all that is  keeping their dogs afloat.  Most time when i say i feed purina i am reminded that i also feed home cooked and give sups  I can't remember the exact words but someone posted on this page that my dogs could eat sawdust and still get by with the cooked and sups I give them.  See what I mean?  Some just can't believe that some dogs do just great on Purina.  I have never doubted that some dogs do great on Wellness, some do well on TWO, some do well on Eagle Pack, some do well on Nutro, some do well on Chicken Soup  But I have also seen posts where some dogs didn't do well on one or more of theses.  .And I don't doubt some dogs do great on Iam, Eukanuba, Hills, pedigree, and even Ol Roy.  And some don't.  The big difference between me and a lot of the premium feeders is I totally believe there are dogs that do great on grocery store brands, middle of the road brands and premium and they believe dogs can only do great on Premium.

But some people refuse to believe that their beloved food could possibly be doing their dogs any harm,and blame their dogs problems on everything else BUT their food.

 
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ORIGINAL: Edie

I don't think anyone on these forums would feed a food if they thought it was doing more harm than good.

But some people refuse to believe that their beloved food could possibly be doing their dogs any harm,and blame their dogs problems on everything else BUT their food.

*Back to your corners*

And sometimes they are right.  Sometimes they're wrong. 

I don't come to these threads that often, only when I'd like to get some advice on a food.  I'm amazed at how combatant this thread has become.  I'm not surprised though, the whole forum has gone through a drastic change lately and it's just not that much fun nor educational anymore.  I've had to resort to PMs to get any advice because I don't like having to filter out fights and rudeness.  Ya'll have fun.

*Ding Ding*

Has anyone ever heard the phrase pi$$ing in the wind???
 
that's this thread in a nutshell....

But some people refuse to believe that their beloved food could possibly be doing their dogs any harm,and blame their dogs problems on everything else BUT their food.

 
Which problems do my dogs have that are caused by their food?  Is it Bucks' arthritis at age almost 12 (you should have seen him dragging me on our 1 1/2 mile walk this afternoon).  Or is it his problem with night vision.  Perhaps his low thyroid?  Or the one and only kidney infection he had 4 months ago?  Or the rattle snake bite to the face, or the severe reaction to ground wasp sting.
 
Is it KayCee's allergies to bermuda grass, live oak pollen & fleas?  Or the luxating patellas she had, or the one and only ear infection (truly a bad inner ear infection that scared the daylights out of me as it caused a vertigo episode).  Or the virus she had that came from the blue and she spent a day in ICU being rehydrated, and of course her severe reaction to her 2ed set of annuals 4 `/2 years ago.  Which of these were caused by her food. 
 
And then Honey's heartworms when we adopted her, dont' know what she had been on in the way of food, but i don't think it caused her heartworms.  And of course she ate the d-con we accidently knocked out of the attic.
 
Of course there was Hunter's AIHA and dying liver, which the histopath report said was caused by a drug. (as was so many others).  Outside of that in his 4 years he saw very little time at the vets--for a couple of hot spots when he was younger, but none in his last two years, and once for a pulled muscle. 
 
So which of these things should I blame on their dog food instead of blaming the wasp, the snake, the pollun, the bad knees, the vax, the mosquito (HW's in Honey), the d-con.  I guess i could blame the KayCee's lone ear infection on her food, but seems to me if that was the case she would have had more than one in ther 7 years.  And I guess I could blame Buck's night vision problems and his arthritis on his food instead of old age.  We know that any premium fed dogs that comes down with arthritis, it is due to age, not food, but i guess that can not apply to Buck. 
 
Actually, I do believe if my dogs had not been in the great conditon they were in, Buck might not have survived the snake bite and wasp  sting without some kind of complications, same with kayCee and her reaction to her vax (most likely lepto) and she would not have healed so fast from her knee surgeries.  As to Honey, she got treatment a month after we adopted her and came thru it with flying colors, but not knowing what she was fed, I can't say if food helped her or not.  But it sure didn't hurt when she got the d-con.
 
But I do want to know which of these problems was caused by their food

   Or the rattle snake bite to the face,   

Wow, Purina caused that?  OMG  Change foods now!!!![]

ORIGINAL: dyan

[color=#cc6699]I totally, 100% agree with you! I've read LOTS of negative things about the "premium" foods. One of comments that really stands out to me is the one that we're just wasting money on the holistic foods, basically implying that we're suckers for doing so. But those of us who feed that type of food didn't throw a pity party and victimize ourselves like I've seen several of the Purina feeders doing. [8|]

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I probably haven't  read EVERY post ever written here...so I certainly could have missed something,,,, but other then someone being backed into a wall and coming out fighting...I have not seen such posts at all. 

In other words you do not feel that Purina alone is sufficient.

I'm sorry you have not read such posts, but yes, they are there.  You probobly don't remember them because none of those that feed those foods felt the need to cry about it.