WHAT is with the Purina people?

Here is a link to a Purina site for Champion show dogs.  IF you look to the left side you can click on the genetics, nutritional, breeding links.  [linkhttp://www.purinaproclub.com/public/Circle_of_Champions.asp]http://www.purinaproclub.com/public/Circle_of_Champions.asp[/link]
 
Someone posted something about Purina and a food contamination in South America.  I have tried several times to search for anything with Purina South American tainted food etc and come up with nothing but Diamond!  If you have actual links to that please post them.  I have heard nothing of it and am interested if it is heresay or a real story.  After I read it I will contact the 1800 Purina line and see if they own up.  I have been told by the district rep during the Diamond disaster that we are blessed this hasn't happened to us.  And its due to stringent quality control measures in place.  I heard in some plants its more carefully watched than human food which is so scary to me.  Unless there is actual truth-it is best not to post and scare people like that.  It happened to Nutro and it was not good for their customers or their business.  In todays world anyone can post anything on a website and some believe that its true because its online!  I can post anything and call it truth.  It doesn't make it so.  I doubt most of what I read on the internet. 

Shew,,,,,relief for Sandra at last....I think we're changing which food we are slamming.
 

ORIGINAL: losinsusan

Someone posted something about Purina and a food contamination in South America. I have tried several times to search for anything with Purina South American tainted food etc and come up with nothing but Diamond! If you have actual links to that please post them. I have heard nothing of it and am interested if it is heresay or a real story.

http://www.worldfoodscience.org/cms/?pid=1003595&printable=1

Glenda,perhaps feeding a different kibble each day would send your GSD's into an intestinal tailspin,but it doesnt my dogs

ORIGINAL: Edie

Same here.  I've only got one GSD and four types of kibble (only three open so far, one is a new food). 
 
As long as I avoid ingredients my dog does not handle well (barley, wheat and rice) I can switch from meal to meal with no digestive upsets.  That doesn't mean the output does not vary in firmness but two of the foods are known to not produce firm output (Pinnacle Duck & Pinnacle Trout).  I like to rotate the proteins and vary the other ingredients.

Rotating depends on the dog. Two of mine could handle something different every meal - if the other one gets a bite of something different he's screwed up for days. Been that way since I found him as a baby.

Thank you for posting it.  It appears that the foods affected were Chow according to that article.  And the others are not made there?  Wow.  Doesn't change my feeding choice but it shows how our American standards are better than the plant over there.  Not that it makes the deaths of innocent pets any less tragic.

When mine was younger he tolerated food change very well.  Now that he is an old fart he smells another food and pukes!  Strangest thing the darn dog ate a whole bag of Reese's Peanut Butter cups last halloween and we never knew he ate it until the orange wrappers appeared in the yard.  But give him even a dog biscuit he never had before and he throws up all over.  Its so strange.  

Why do folks get so upset about what others feed their dogs? I have studied canine nutrition as a lay person since the early 70's, my ex was the director of marketing for Hill's Pet Products for a number of years, and I've had dogs my whole life, but I still believe that there is no perfect dog food. If I had to eat what some folks think is best for me I'd puke! I like meat, and a vegetarian diet would just not work! When I feel puny, I eat raw beef, much to the dismay of my husband. I have given up raw burger because of safety concerns, but a steak is still fair game. Different breeds of dogs were developed on different diets. The Northern breeds often ate a high fat, high meat or fish diet. The Asian breeds ate rice based meals, and the European dogs ate wheat based meals. The best foods went to the people, and the dogs ate leftovers and the cheap stuff. Those that thrived lived to breed! One of the problems encountered by  people bringing in dogs from foriegn countries at the turn of the century was a failure to thrive. This was often because of the drastic differences in diet between countries. If a dog is doing well with a certain food, that is a good food for that dog! If he has allergies, poor condition, or whatever, perhaps food is the culprit, and a change is in order. Yes, at this time I feed a Purina product, but with other dogs, this could change. I've read up on some of the so called premiun foods, and they often appear to be all hype. Other premium foods look like very good products, and if they suit a dog, that is what should be fed. I've even known some vegetarians that believe that their pets should be vegans as well! Who knows, maybe their dogs do well?

ORIGINAL: dyan

we're changing which food we are slamming.

See, why do people have to be so dramatic? 95% of the time people are accused of slamming, bashing, ripping, etc... and they aren't.

How in any way is "Your food contains lamb meal then 4 rices, poultry fat and menadione. That's why people don't like it." slamming? It was stating a fact.

I have given up raw burger because of safety concerns, but a steak is still fair game

 
I used to know a lady that ate steak just about like that. She would turn on the grill, walk by the grill with the steak on a plate, then go eat. The steak saw flame, didn't it?
 

The difference is that people don't eat the EXACT same thing 3 meals a day, 365 days a year. So the occasional McDonald's meal won't wreak havoc, but living on fast food will!

I think the example of the occasional person who smoked 2 packs a day, never exercised, ate unhealthy food and lived to be 100 is irrelevant to this discussion. That is not the norm and is only proof that some people are blessed with really good genetics- doesn't mean that everyone else should just throw caution to the wind.

Also, the fact that only 6 out of 8 dogs have to live through the AAFCO study does not inspire a lot of confidence!

Also, the fact that only 6 out of 8 dogs have to live through the AAFCO study does not inspire a lot of confidence

 
Is that live or finish the testing.  There is a big difference in 1/4 of the dogs dying while eating that food and 1/4 of the dogs not finishing because they were allergic to something in it, it didn't agre with them or they died for some other reason, like already had cancer or kidney problems, were very old.  I have never seen where this data was published but have read  a number of times that it was 6 out of 8 finish the test.  I would like to read it for myself, so where can I find it.

See, why do people have to be so dramatic? 95% of the time people are accused of slamming, bashing, ripping, etc... and they aren't.

How in any way is "Your food contains lamb meal then 4 rices, poultry fat and menadione. That's why people don't like it." slamming? It was stating a fact.

 
Your right!   100%  
The many sarcastic and obnoxious posts on this thread have me so frustrated that I am stooping as low as the people posting them. 
I guess I should have said "I think we are finding another food to pick on beside Purina!"  And of course you were not picking on it,,, you were just stating the facts!

(It shouldn#%92t matter the brand as long as the dogs are healthy.)
 
I know I#%92ll get a smack on the hand for saying this I feed Pedigree because our vet suggested it and it works for our dogs.  
 

Why would a vet,a health care professional, who is supposed to have their patients health and wellbeing at heart recommend someone feed this to their dog for every meal,every day?[&:]

>edigree chicken & Rice:
Ground Whole Corn, Meat and Bone Meal, Corn Gluten Meal,Chicken By-product Meal, Animal Fat (preserved with BHA/BHT), Natural Poultry Flavor, Wheat Flour, Chicken, Rice, Dried Whole Peas, Wheat Mill Run, Dried Beet Pulp, Wheat Gluten, Salt, Carrot Powder, Potassium Chloride, Vegetable Oil (Source of Linoleic Acid), Caramel Color, Vitamins (Choline Chloride, dl-Alpha Tocopherol Acetate [Source of Vitamin E], L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate [Source of Vitamin C*], Vitamin A Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate [Vitamin B1], Biotin, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin Supplement [Vitamin B2], Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement), Minerals (Zinc Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Potassium Iodide), Added FD&C and Lake Colors (Yellow 6, Blue 2, Red 40, Yellow 5). *Not recognized as an essential nutrient by the AAFCO Dog Food Nutrient Profiles. 320 kcal per 8-oz. (86g) cup (345 kcal per 100g) GUARANTEED ANALYSIS Crude Protein (min.) 26.0% Crude Fat min. 10.0% Crude Fiber max. 4.0% Moisture max. 12.0%


Scoobychick the bolded ingredients would cause me concern,the ingredients in Red would would scare me too much to feed a dog [&:] BHT and BHA(your food contains both [sm=eek.gif]) along with the colors have been linked to cancer.Dogs are meat eaters and their food should contain mostly meat.

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